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Old 17-08-2005, 23:27   #586
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Re: ntl Confirms 10Mb Broadband Speed Increase

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Really?

A DVDR holds 4.7GB, and can be burned in 15 minutes.

There are people, I can think of 1 who has 3 TB of drive space on his PC, he's on 4Mbit BY and has it maxed 24/7.

I am certainly not being unrealistic at all.

If you think that 100GB of hard drive costs 80 quid too I'll do you a good deal on one considering I can get 250GB for 65 without really shopping around
I personally have nearly 2 tb of storage on this PC i only paid around the 60 quid mark for my 300 gig drives
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Old 17-08-2005, 23:30   #587
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Re: ntl Confirms 10Mb Broadband Speed Increase

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I personally have nearly 2 tb of storage on this PC i only paid around the 60 quid mark for my 300 gig drives
I have about 1TB but i know that i would not download so much for the fun of it! and the best deal i got on a hdd was 30 quid for 200GB DEAL
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Do u really think that sombody would download 100GB a day for the fun? he would have to spend 80 quid every day for a new hardrive. You are just being really unrealistic
Streaming music, downloading movies, watching and deleting. This is where the bandwidth will go in the future.
Theoretically you could play out a DVD in real time over 10MB.
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I have about 1TB but i know that i would not download so much for the fun of it! and the best deal i got on a hdd was 30 quid for 200GB DEAL
I only really use my storage for my photoshop work and i suppose the speed increases will be a bonus for me in that respect, but i dont really care if NTL enforce the cap. Personally i hope they do i dread to think what is gonna happen to my connection if some people who insist on downloading the entire internet 24 hours a day are alowed to go unchecked, my connection has already suffered due to people going hell for leather the last time NTL increased the speeds. Just my 2ps worth....
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Re: ntl Confirms 10Mb Broadband Speed Increase

my best one was 30 quid for 250 GB MAXTOR 8MB Cache 7200 rpm, but thats not the point here, ur saying that 'ppl' are downloading like 3 TB a month, but thats like 10 ppl who do that in whole britain...

so Rob..ur right...all bolox in my opinion, those 10(ok well maybe 100) ppl are just fkn PC junkies...
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Re: ntl Confirms 10Mb Broadband Speed Increase

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my best one was 30 quid for 250 GB MAXTOR 8MB Cache 7200 rpm, but thats not the point here, ur saying that 'ppl' are downloading like 3 TB a month, but thats like 10 ppl who do that in whole britain...

so Rob..ur right...all bolox in my opinion, those 10(ok well maybe 100) ppl are just fkn PC junkies...
10? not even that...lol
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Re: ntl Confirms 10Mb Broadband Speed Increase

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my best one was 30 quid for 250 GB MAXTOR 8MB Cache 7200 rpm, but thats not the point here, ur saying that 'ppl' are downloading like 3 TB a month, but thats like 10 ppl who do that in whole britain...

so Rob..ur right...all bolox in my opinion, those 10(ok well maybe 100) ppl are just fkn PC junkies...
No I said there would be people who would be downloading insane amounts. There are people who download constantly 'to get what they pay for' out of their connection. Even if they delete most of it and never use it.

Already with 3Mbit as max speed we have 1TB/month users (download and upload) which is pretty good going. Hand them a 300% speed increase they'll be yumming it up.

You also forgot about the car boot sales, they've got to keep the stalls stocked you know, and newsgroups easily provide TB of movies and games each and every day.

Thanks for telling me I talk 'bolox' with your first post on the board though, I bow to your superior knowledge
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10? not even that...lol
You reckon

You have over 1TB of drive space, you don't have that for the family photos now, do you?

As you pointed out completely opposite to where you said like £80 for 200GB storage is insanely cheap.

You seem a bit defensive on this. If you have something to confess soothe your soul now, I can't think of many legit reasons for having 1TB of space so I'd guess your connection is pretty busy
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Re: ntl Confirms 10Mb Broadband Speed Increase

first of all, i want to thank u for bowing to my great knowledge,(as u should i might add)

but fk me..ur right...





u still bowing?....guess not lol..
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Re: ntl Confirms 10Mb Broadband Speed Increase

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No I said there would be people who would be downloading insane amounts. There are people who download constantly 'to get what they pay for' out of their connection. Even if they delete most of it and never use it.

Already with 3Mbit as max speed we have 1TB/month users (download and upload) which is pretty good going. Hand them a 300% speed increase they'll be yumming it up.

You also forgot about the car boot sales, they've got to keep the stalls stocked you know, and newsgroups easily provide TB of movies and games each and every day.

Thanks for telling me I talk 'bolox' with your first post on the board though, I bow to your superior knowledge
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You reckon

You have over 1TB of drive space, you don't have that for the family photos now, do you?

As you pointed out completely opposite to where you said like £80 for 200GB storage is insanely cheap.

You seem a bit defensive on this. If you have something to confess soothe your soul now, I can't think of many legit reasons for having 1TB of space so I'd guess your connection is pretty busy
Maybe you do get 1TB a month users.....but how many? 1,2 or maybe 3?? at most. The rest of the 2% that will exceed the limit will prop only just exceed it. Maybe 100GB or somthing like that.
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Re: ntl Confirms 10Mb Broadband Speed Increase

Ig, these people downloading so much, are the bods inside able to actually see what they are downloading (filenames, filesizes anything to give an idea), not just where its going and the ports to guess what traffic it is?
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Re: ntl Confirms 10Mb Broadband Speed Increase

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Maybe you do get 1TB a month users.....but how many? 1,2 or maybe 3?? at most. The rest of the 2% that will exceed the limit will prop only just exceed it. Maybe 100GB or somthing like that.
Only just... Downloading 100 gig when you have a 30 gig cap is not only just exceeding the limit. 31 gig is, 100 gig isn't. 100 gig is more than three times the limit.

I'm sure Ig has some nice stats on what percentage of the bandwidth these 2% of users actually take up...
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Re: ntl Confirms 10Mb Broadband Speed Increase

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the way thats said could either be
1. Saying that the upgrades will happen sooner than expected
2. Or you are saying 3mb will start next monday
3. or all users will start from next monday
im gonna hope for number 3 Could you clarify your answer

Also is there any news if ntl will allow all users to upgrade to 10mb online. As in ppl with 3mb, 2mb and 1mb will be able to upgrade instantly as soon as the update starts to be issued to any package they wish (10 with 75gb or 10mb with **gb or 10mb with **gb)???
ntl are in uncharted water (for them) with the speed increase so the bet is it will be phased in as stated in the report, depending on how the 3Mbs crowd goes will decide how soon the 1Mbs and 2Mbs customers will be boosted, then if that all goes well the unlimited options will be phased in.
They got their sums right with the last speed increase so there is a good chance that things will happen a good deal sooner then the stated timescale, hell, if it runs to the end of 2006 there will be a mass exodus long before then.
To pace things out a little ntl will probably not inform customers directly, but as before let them hear from a friendly forum.
There has been a frenzy of activity upgrading the infrastructure these past months, ntl no doubt want to get everything finished as soon as possible, then they can start to push the new services they have lined up.
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Re: ntl Confirms 10Mb Broadband Speed Increase

I for one am planning on a upgrade to 3mb service asap myself, this was on the cards a while back just upping the "antai" so to speak.
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Re: ntl Confirms 10Mb Broadband Speed Increase

1. The people saying they will jump ship, please just do it and stop saying it. However, you know you won't go because lets see how many ADSL customers out there actually have jumped ship and managed to get their full 8mb.

2. Ignition is right and anyone arguing against him is wrong. I've maxed my connection before and the only reason i don't now is because i am a family man now and can't afford to take any chances. 4.7gb DVDs are easy to come by and very, very cheap on ebay. Hard drives are 10 a penny, roughly £35 for 200gb on ebuyer. It's incredbly easy to use a download manager and use your connection 24/7, watch some stuff when you get home, delete some of the junk you downloaded, burn some of the good stuff to DVDs, put your music on your 30gb mp3 player, and then add a whole host more albums and movies etc to the manager again. If i did this recently and i know a work colleague who maxes theirs, there's your 2 people already. Unfortunately it's far more. Pretending it doesn't happen and saying it bolox unfortunately doesn't make it so.
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1/theres your 24/7 P2P download users who use both upstream and downstream

2/ then theres your newsgroup subscribers who download 24/7 also but don't use their upstream as much

3/ and then there is your more concerning downloader who will download the latest film or game maybe but not use the network 24/7 but will go over the limit per month and hardly use any upstream

4/ followed by the users who will downloaded to their allocted cap limit

5/and lastly people who just play games,browse and do the odd bit of downloading and uploading, like demos', freeware, ect,ect

Now i'm no Saint and i prob come under number 3 a fair few times, but this has only happened due to the speed increases, before that i was one of them 24/7 users as speed wasn't fast enought to get what i wanted then leave network free and unused.

So to be fair although there is those that extract the urine but to actually have a faster download speed i would have thought eased the network slightly as people like myself get what they want and then not download anything unlike before? - and i bet there is thousands of users under number 3 at present and hundreds under number 1
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