30-10-2016, 13:00
|
#586
|
Rafalution
Join Date: Sep 2009
Age: 34
Posts: 5,338
|
Re: US Election 2016
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mick
I would not call President John F. Kennedy, an unpopular President. Prior to his Assassination, on November 22nd, 1963, he had a 70% approval rating, which is said to be highest of all Presidents, post World War II.
|
His popularity with other nations and organizations inside his own country were on the floor though. His rejection of Operation Northwoods (A rejection that would cement his legacy later) and the Cuban crisis meant relations were on its arse with both Russia and the CIA.
What the US actually know about the assassination becomes available next year and may reveal more on the three popular theories. LHO was backed by Russia, The Secret Service accidently fired the kill shot (Completed disproved) or the shot was fired from somewhere else.
__________________
All posts are the opinion of myself and don't reflect those of BT or Openreach.
Last edited by adzii_nufc; 30-10-2016 at 13:07.
|
|
|
30-10-2016, 13:06
|
#587
|
Remoaner
Cable Forum Team
Join Date: Mar 2004
Posts: 32,278
|
Re: US Election 2016
New polls show Florida has become tied but North Carolina has moved further to Clinton.
|
|
|
30-10-2016, 13:15
|
#588
|
Rafalution
Join Date: Sep 2009
Age: 34
Posts: 5,338
|
Re: US Election 2016
Quote:
Originally Posted by Damien
Remember we don't have a revelation as such. We don't know if the emails are relevant yet
|
Doesn't matter if they are. She should get the bad press for it. What happened last time round was a farce.
In the words of others.
Rep. Trey Gowdy (R., S.C), a former federal prosecutor, said concerns were raised “when you have five immunity agreements and no prosecution, when you are allowing witnesses who happen to be lawyers…to sit in on an interview.” He added, “That is not the FBI that I used to work with. It looks to me like some things were done differently that I don’t recall being done.’’
and
“No wonder they couldn’t prosecute a case,” Chaffetz said. “They were handing out immunity deals like candy.”
Now another potential witness that could incriminate Clinton is supposedly seeking immunity.. Seems all too familiar. Paul Combetta all over again
So whilst I have the opinion that it's well deserved. You can't deny the timing is pretty damning. I've only ever watched the Obama campaigns and elections so what's the worst election run/campaign anyone's ever seen? is it this?
__________________
All posts are the opinion of myself and don't reflect those of BT or Openreach.
Last edited by adzii_nufc; 30-10-2016 at 14:21.
|
|
|
30-10-2016, 15:14
|
#589
|
Guest
Location: newcastle upon tyne
Services: Sky Q silver bundle
Sky Q 2TB box
Sky Q mini box
Sky fibre unlimited
Sky Talk evenings and week
Posts: n/a
|
Re: US Election 2016
Quote:
Originally Posted by Damien
Remember we don't have a revelation as such. We don't know if the emails are relevant yet
|
So why has the FBI opened their gob at such a crucial time ? either they are trying to influence the election or just plain incompetent
|
|
|
30-10-2016, 15:31
|
#590
|
Rafalution
Join Date: Sep 2009
Age: 34
Posts: 5,338
|
Re: US Election 2016
Both. Their evidence for incompetence is clear with the quote above. The timing is just deliberate too.
__________________
All posts are the opinion of myself and don't reflect those of BT or Openreach.
|
|
|
30-10-2016, 15:35
|
#591
|
Guest
Location: newcastle upon tyne
Services: Sky Q silver bundle
Sky Q 2TB box
Sky Q mini box
Sky fibre unlimited
Sky Talk evenings and week
Posts: n/a
|
Re: US Election 2016
Quote:
Originally Posted by adzii_nufc
Both. Their evidence for incompetence is clear with the quote above. The timing is just deliberate too.
|
Then heads should roll ,and in a very public and humiliating way
|
|
|
30-10-2016, 15:37
|
#592
|
Inactive
Join Date: Dec 2009
Location: Crawley
Posts: 14,025
|
Re: US Election 2016
They tried to attack the first Madam President. I wouldn't be surprised if Americans feel the need to shove these emails or whatever the hell they are.
|
|
|
30-10-2016, 16:02
|
#593
|
Rafalution
Join Date: Sep 2009
Age: 34
Posts: 5,338
|
Re: US Election 2016
Clinton can complain away. If the initial investigation hadn't ended as dodgy as it did then I'd sympathize. She had this coming.
The next in line asking for immunity that I mentioned above is Huma Abedin
https://www.washingtonpost.com/world...aa5_story.html
Who is now rocking the papers.
All this rests on Coney's shoulder, he handed out the immunity deals, but the entire FBI looked ridiculous when evidence surfaced that Clinton and co had been tampering with the evidence. Now they're re-opening it. There's pressure on him, he's made the entire FBI look ridiculous. Coney will go soon but something seriously wrong has occurred on both occasions here.
__________________
All posts are the opinion of myself and don't reflect those of BT or Openreach.
Last edited by adzii_nufc; 30-10-2016 at 16:08.
|
|
|
30-10-2016, 16:18
|
#594
|
Remoaner
Cable Forum Team
Join Date: Mar 2004
Posts: 32,278
|
Re: US Election 2016
Quote:
Originally Posted by martyh
So why has the FBI opened their gob at such a crucial time ? either they are trying to influence the election or just plain incompetent
|
Well that's the question.
From his point of view it's difficult: If he hasn't said anything and after the election it emerged he could have then we would be in trouble. If this turns out to be nothing he is also in trouble.
What is clear is that he shouldn't have worded the statement to congress as poorly as he did. He attempted to downplay it afterwards but the damage was done. It's also emerged he was advised against this by the Justice Department.
However the rule about not attributing to malice that which is better explained by stupidity should suffice. At worse he has shown a desire to be in the limelight as with his press conference when the FBI brought no charges.
---------- Post added at 16:11 ---------- Previous post was at 16:09 ----------
Quote:
Originally Posted by adzii_nufc
All this rests on Coney's shoulder, he handed out the immunity deals, but the entire FBI looked ridiculous when evidence surfaced that Clinton and co had been tampering with the evidence. Now they're re-opening it. There's pressure on him, he's made the entire FBI look ridiculous. Coney will go soon but something seriously wrong has occurred on both occasions here.
|
They're reopening it because of the emergence of new e-mails. They're not revisiting the old e-mails, allegations of evidence tampering or anything else. They've found more e-mails and they're looking into it although we don't know if they involve Clinton's e-mail server nor if they even include her.
---------- Post added at 16:18 ---------- Previous post was at 16:11 ----------
We have the first polling from after the e-mails: http://www.cbsnews.com/news/cbs-batt...of-fbi-emails/
Not quite as bad for Clinton as first feared. People who are voting against her think it's a big deal, those voting for her do not. I think 'e-mails' are sort of priced in at this point. Clinton is ahead in Pennsylvania and North Carolina. Trump in Arizona.
|
|
|
30-10-2016, 16:26
|
#595
|
Rafalution
Join Date: Sep 2009
Age: 34
Posts: 5,338
|
Re: US Election 2016
Quote:
Originally Posted by Damien
Well that's the question.
From his point of view it's difficult: If he hasn't said anything and after the election it emerged he could have then we would be in trouble. If this turns out to be nothing he is also in trouble.
What is clear is that he shouldn't have worded the statement to congress as poorly as he did. He attempted to downplay it afterwards but the damage was done. It's also emerged he was advised against this by the Justice Department.
However the rule about not attributing to malice that which is better explained by stupidity should suffice. At worse he has shown a desire to be in the limelight as with his press conference when the FBI brought no charges.
---------- Post added at 16:11 ---------- Previous post was at 16:09 ----------
They're reopening it because of the emergence of new e-mails. They're not revisiting the old e-mails, allegations of evidence tampering or anything else. They've found more e-mails and they're looking into it although we don't know if they involve Clinton's e-mail server nor if they even include her.
---------- Post added at 16:18 ---------- Previous post was at 16:11 ----------
We have the first polling from after the e-mails: http://www.cbsnews.com/news/cbs-batt...of-fbi-emails/
Not quite as bad for Clinton as first feared. People who are voting against her think it's a big deal, those voting for her do not. I think 'e-mails' are sort of priced in at this point. Clinton is ahead in Pennsylvania and North Carolina. Trump in Arizona.
|
Sorry didn't mean that to be used as part of this investigation it was just a summary of Comey himself and his involvement in its entirety and to be fair, a good reason on why he should be removed.
Go back to Trump and Clinton Jail quote.. Assuming Trump stuck to his guns and when he won, it'd be Comey in his sights. Now Comey has stumbled upon some new evidence..
Conspiracy to go with your Sunday dinners!
__________________
All posts are the opinion of myself and don't reflect those of BT or Openreach.
|
|
|
30-10-2016, 22:11
|
#596
|
cf.mega poster
Join Date: Sep 2005
Posts: 6,798
|
Re: US Election 2016
Has anyone thought about another cog in the wheel. There are so many buildings and Hotels that have been built with that prat Trump's name on.
Just think of how many people her has bought off with all his dollars. Its always the same on the other foot.
Its very strange how this has come up with only 7 days to go. Sid in The Washington Times - l think. The FBI knew about these emails Several months ago.
So why bring it up now. No, l reckon its a 'stick in the wheel' to put voters off Clinton and to vote Trump. The FBI prat is a republican. Makes sense don't it
I bet Trump is a crook anyway
|
|
|
31-10-2016, 12:08
|
#598
|
Woke and proud !
Join Date: Jun 2004
Services: TV, Phone, BB, a wife
Posts: 9,214
|
Re: US Election 2016
The Torygraph seems to think Clintons lead has been wiped out.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016...ntons-11-poin/
However maybe they are only choosing one poll to get a headline.
In a way it will be funny if Trump does get in. That mad bloody country deserves him. If it only it didn't affect the rest of the World.
|
|
|
31-10-2016, 12:16
|
#599
|
Remoaner
Cable Forum Team
Join Date: Mar 2004
Posts: 32,278
|
Re: US Election 2016
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mr K
The Torygraph seems to think Clintons lead has been wiped out.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016...ntons-11-poin/
However maybe they are only choosing one poll to get a headline.
In a way it will be funny if Trump does get in. That mad bloody country deserves him. If it only it didn't affect the rest of the World.
|
They're choosing one poll and that poll had narrowed during the course of last week. It's been +2 Clinton (or +1 depending how you read it) since the e-mail.
|
|
|
31-10-2016, 12:29
|
#600
|
Rafalution
Join Date: Sep 2009
Age: 34
Posts: 5,338
|
Re: US Election 2016
Quote:
Originally Posted by Damien
They're choosing one poll and that poll had narrowed during the course of last week. It's been +2 Clinton (or +1 depending how you read it) since the e-mail.
|
The polls didn't move that much when it was alleged Combetta and Clinton tampered with E-mails did they? Even though this is 'official' and the timing isn't great I don't see it making a massive dent.
I know it's coincidental but it's just funny how Trump talks about Hilary being put in jail and the FBI etc. Then Comey as above, the man that essentially made sure there was absolutely no chance of prosecution revives it from the dead.
I still say this all rests on his shoulders, something seriously dodgy has gone on.
Edit: Forgot, this is going on the assumption this fresh story brings about nothing relevant.
__________________
All posts are the opinion of myself and don't reflect those of BT or Openreach.
Last edited by adzii_nufc; 31-10-2016 at 12:36.
|
|
|
Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 2 (0 members and 2 guests)
|
|
Posting Rules
|
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts
HTML code is Off
|
|
|
All times are GMT +1. The time now is 06:26.
|