No flags allowed on ntl/TW vans - Page 4

nffc · 31-05-2006, 17:08

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Originally Posted by Russ D

Banning England shirts and flags on engineers and their vans is a very good thing IMO. I'm Welsh and certainly would find that intimidating, especially with the St George's flag being used by the BNP.

Who gives a **** about the BNP - it's the ENGLAND flag not the BNP flag, I know you're Welsh so it doesn't mean anything to you but imagine if someone said the same about your flag. Why can't we fly our own flag in our own country? (I know England isn't Wales before you say anything!)

Though NTL/TW onsite engineers having them added to their vans or uniform looks unprofessional so it is banned and rightly so. And I think it looks generally ****tish too but that's my opinion, nowt wrong with a flag in the window though.

What strikes me, is that any nationality can be patriotic but for some reason it's wrong when the English do.

Nugget · 31-05-2006, 17:14

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Originally Posted by nffc

Who gives a **** about the BNP - it's the ENGLAND flag not the BNP flag, I know you're Welsh so it doesn't mean anything to you but imagine if someone said the same about your flag. Why can't we fly our own flag in our own country? (I know England isn't Wales before you say anything!)

Though NTL/TW onsite engineers having them added to their vans or uniform looks unprofessional so it is banned and rightly so. And I think it looks generally ****tish too but that's my opinion, nowt wrong with a flag in the window though.

What strikes me, is that any nationality can be patriotic but for some reason it's wrong when the English do.

Ahem, may I be the first to direct you to post 35

http://www.cableforum.co.uk/board/sh...9&postcount=35

nffc · 31-05-2006, 18:00

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Originally Posted by Nugget

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Originally Posted by nffc

Who gives a **** about the BNP - it's the ENGLAND flag not the BNP flag, I know you're Welsh so it doesn't mean anything to you but imagine if someone said the same about your flag. Why can't we fly our own flag in our own country? (I know England isn't Wales before you say anything!)

Though NTL/TW onsite engineers having them added to their vans or uniform looks unprofessional so it is banned and rightly so. And I think it looks generally ****tish too but that's my opinion, nowt wrong with a flag in the window though.

What strikes me, is that any nationality can be patriotic but for some reason it's wrong when the English do.

Ahem, may I be the first to direct you to post 35

http://www.cableforum.co.uk/board/sh...9&postcount=35

I had seen that but felt the need to make my point regardless or whether or not Russ was joking

Russ · 31-05-2006, 18:08

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Originally Posted by nffc

I had seen that but felt the need to make my point regardless or whether or not Russ was joking

Nice bit of hasty back-tracking

31-05-2006, 18:17

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Originally Posted by danielf

Well, whatever spin they put on it, I can imagine a company not allowing flags on their vans for the simple reason that it doesn't look very professional.

NTL Senior management don't need to worry about professionalism. They messed that up years ago and continue to do so on a daily bases. I honestly feel NTL Senior management have lost the plot completely and this just cements that feeling.

As for the flags well sounds like "ankers" comes to mind.

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Originally Posted by homealone

In my opinion this is a preventable cost I believe NTL are justified in preventing.

So what about the cheap tv, phone and broadband. Charge full price and save a engineers job.

Plus having had time now to read this thread through i honestly cannot believe some of the crazy half arsed answers that have come out to say why they support NTL Management in not allowing the members of staff in supporting there teams. God next you will agree with full outsourcing to India and demand the flying of Indian flags on the vans.

boy this site is going

Saaf_laandon_mo · 31-05-2006, 18:36

Are India in the world cup then??!!

31-05-2006, 18:47

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Originally Posted by Saaf_laandon_mo

Are India in the world cup then??!!

I dont think that would matter with NTL Management they get everything else wrong

DipsTheOne · 31-05-2006, 19:06

Forgod sake what is this world coming to I live in an estate full of asains etc. Now when the crickit season starts there all out with there flags specilly if they play england!!!!!!!! now I rember 1 year when this was so I had my england flag on car etc got stop from police and told to take it off and the asians were laughing at me This really ****ed me off becouse they had there flags etc banners you name it the police did f..kall about it I asked why they said they are not provoking any 1 now i laughed at this none provking officer now what you think there doing now to me he said there nothing i can do about it so i said well tell em take the flag down he said i cant so it all right for then to provoke me and i was clearly doing nothing but showing my pride for england I WILL DO THE SAME FOR WORLD CUP and i bet you the asians will have a moan at it WELL I SAY TUFF IT MY COUNTRY DONT LIKE BUGGER OFF !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!! ENGLAND FAN

Oh i have nothing against asains etc but they moan at everything we english do like that you cant say blackboard no more bloody sad it is

Saaf_laandon_mo · 31-05-2006, 19:36

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Originally Posted by DipsTheOne

Oh i have nothing against asains etc but they moan at everything we english do like that you cant say blackboard no more bloody sad it is

Asian = brownish,
blackboard = black

I have yet to meet an asian thats protested about that one.

anyway thats a diff topic, but i will be proudly flyin my portuguese flag as soon as the world cup starts good and proper

Nugget · 31-05-2006, 19:41

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Originally Posted by DipsTheOne

Forgod sake what is this world coming to I live in an estate full of asains etc. Now when the crickit season starts there all out with there flags specilly if they play england!!!!!!!! now I rember 1 year when this was so I had my england flag on car etc got stop from police and told to take it off and the asians were laughing at me This really ****ed me off becouse they had there flags etc banners you name it the police did f..kall about it I asked why they said they are not provoking any 1 now i laughed at this none provking officer now what you think there doing now to me he said there nothing i can do about it so i said well tell em take the flag down he said i cant so it all right for then to provoke me and i was clearly doing nothing but showing my pride for england I WILL DO THE SAME FOR WORLD CUP and i bet you the asians will have a moan at it WELL I SAY TUFF IT MY COUNTRY DONT LIKE BUGGER OFF !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!! ENGLAND FAN

Oh i have nothing against asains etc but they moan at everything we english do like that you cant say blackboard no more bloody sad it is

For someone with nothing against asians, that was rather a vitriolic post!

Anyway, there's a difference between being told to take it off your car by the police (obviously taking into account the fact that you haven't actually told us why you were told to remove it), and a large national company wanting to maintain a professional image!

DipsTheOne · 31-05-2006, 20:09

I was told to take it off has it was offending the asians why i dont know have you try and get explination form a copper probly there were thinking i was trying to course a riot erm thats my guess but im not stupid i had my kids in back of the car this was just unberlivable how much they seam to get away with it Oh im from OLDHAM you rember the riots right i shall say no more.

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and like i say i have nothing against asians but they do get away with alot of things!!!!!!!!!!!!11

31-05-2006, 20:34

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Originally Posted by Saaf_laandon_mo

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Originally Posted by DipsTheOne

Oh i have nothing against asains etc but they moan at everything we english do like that you cant say blackboard no more bloody sad it is

Asian = brownish,
blackboard = black

I have yet to meet an asian thats protested about that one.

anyway thats a diff topic, but i will be proudly flyin my portuguese flag as soon as the world cup starts good and proper

As long as

A. Your not in a NTL van
B. A employee of NTL

smicer07 · 31-05-2006, 20:52

Flags should be banned full stop on cars if you ask me, they look stupid (and even more so when England go out early on!).

31-05-2006, 21:06

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Originally Posted by unlimited

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Originally Posted by homealone

In my opinion this is a preventable cost I believe NTL are justified in preventing.

So what about the cheap tv, phone and broadband. Charge full price and save a engineers job.

Plus having had time now to read this thread through i honestly cannot believe some of the crazy half arsed answers that have come out to say why they support NTL Management in not allowing the members of staff in supporting there teams. God next you will agree with full outsourcing to India and demand the flying of Indian flags on the vans.

boy this site is going

Funny enough, I was thinking about that inconsistency, when I posted, Bill, and I have to agree with you - especially as you are one of the engineers who should have been retained.

The issue of flags on houses & wearing team shirts I don't have a problem with, it is just my personal opinion that the ones on cars/vans look naff.

Fuel consumption was just one possible reason I though of, for why it would be discouraged by NTL - it wasn't intended to 'support' the decision, soz if it came over like that

DipsTheOne · 31-05-2006, 21:15

OK i think im a bit carried away with the hole thing now but i shall say 1 more thing.(WHY CANT I BE ENGLISH AND PROUND AND not having to watch what i say in front of people from all walks of life???????????