The Tory Leadership - Page 4

Pierre · 19-10-2005, 08:53

With Howard gone, and now Clarke.

Now the tories can hopefully shake off the Monkey of Thatchers legacy and capture the imagination of the new voting generation that didn't live through the thatcher years.

When Brown gets No.10 you will inevitably see a swing to the left as some of the labour old guard dig their nails in. This will leave Cameron (As I hope he wins) to fight and win the middle ground.

Nugget · 19-10-2005, 09:09

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Originally Posted by andyl

IMO Clarke was the only one who would have captured public imagination and put the party back on the road to electability. So I'm pinning my hopes on Davis who appears the least likely of the lot to make any progress

Exactly! Particularly 'cos it'll put the electorate off when they see him with my stick poked in his eye

Chrysalis · 19-10-2005, 22:32

Problem with brown, whilst there is no doubt with him as leader will weaken labour's position I think blair will step down too late for the change to make an impact before the next election.

I also think clarke was the only person the tories have strong enough to challenge labour.

BBKing · 20-10-2005, 17:35

Cameron wins by 33 votes, Davis second, Fox out. I reckon that's it - Davis was expected to come first, so if he can't even win in a three way he's got jack all chance head to head against the young fella.

20-10-2005, 17:38

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Originally Posted by BBKing

Cameron wins by 33 votes, Davis second, Fox out. I reckon that's it - Davis was expected to come first, so if he can't even win in a three way he's got jack all chance head to head against the young fella.

Yikes, two Blairs

20-10-2005, 17:52

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Originally Posted by andyl

Yikes, two Blairs

Well at the moment i dont see Cameron as a poodle. Let see how long before America issues him his own collar and lead and shouts roll over.

Angua · 20-10-2005, 18:09

Oddest thing to me is that Tory voters seem to prefer "proper" toffs and not working class (as they may see it) traitors.

20-10-2005, 18:14

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Originally Posted by Bill C

Well at the moment i dont see Cameron as a poodle. Let see how long before America issues him his own collar and lead and shouts roll over.

Well he's in the political equivalent of Battersea Dogs Home at the moment, so we'll have to see if he can produce a suitably sad looking expression in order to be rescued for the Bush family home

(is there summat wrong with the smileys? I can't smile!)

Angua · 20-10-2005, 18:19

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Originally Posted by andyl

Well he's in the political equivalent of Battersea Dogs Home at the moment, so we'll have to see if he can produce a suitably sad looking expression in order to be rescued for the Bush family home

(is there summat wrong with the smileys? I can't smile!)

Try colon right bracket for

and colon D for

And for me there is colon Left bracket

as it will make life unbearable locally for us non Tories.

Chrysalis · 21-10-2005, 00:25

Cameron is the worst one for me, davies as I understand it had a working class background which would have made the public feel more associated with him.

Tezcatlipoca · 21-10-2005, 01:03

I think Cameron would be best for the Tories.

Which is why I want Davis to win

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Originally Posted by BBKing

Cameron wins by 33 votes, Davis second, Fox out. I reckon that's it - Davis was expected to come first, so if he can't even win in a three way he's got jack all chance head to head against the young fella.

Yeah, but the final vote is with the Tory membership...

...The same muppets who voted for the unelectable IDS in 2001 even though Clarke won the MP ballot.

Chrysalis · 21-10-2005, 06:29

Stupid way to vote a leader.

SlackDad · 21-10-2005, 07:42

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Originally Posted by andyl

Yikes, two Blairs

Two Blairs don't make a right.
They make two Rights.

BBKing · 21-10-2005, 08:17

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Yeah, but the final vote is with the Tory membership...

Who are mad, admittedly, but not mad enough to vote for the guy who's been losing support amonst MPs hand over fist since the Conference. Are they?

Will be fun finding out, plus finding out how much nearer a police state we are by the time they make their minds up and actually start opposing the government again (I've been reading the Terrorism Bill, of which more later).

cookie_365 · 21-10-2005, 18:15

Cameron seems to be a nobody, with no experience of politics, no policies, no opinions, nothing in common with the electorate, and, judging by the weasely way he's tried to duck the question, no doubt that he's taken class A drugs.

Can't seem him winning a general election somehow