President Trump 2.0

[Pierre]

Originally Posted by Hugh

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/...ris-nomination

2.5 whole days…….without warning………to get your shoot together…………

[Pierre]

https://news.sky.com/story/joe-biden...-blog-13177655

Well he didn’t say why he’s standing down, he said in his mind he’d done enough to earn a second term…….so why doesn’t he run?

Originally Posted by Pierre

2.5 whole days…….without warning………to get your shoot together…………

30th July is 2.5 days?

If a nominee can’t get 300 Delegates in a week, they’re not a credible candidate…

Originally Posted by Pierre

Based on recent statements from Biden, do you think he stood down voluntarily? Or do you think it was done regardless? I know what I think.

He didn’t write that letter.

I think he was forced out by the men in suits, or more specifically Pelosi and the men in suits. They went to him and told him the Democratic establishment no longer had faith in his candidacy and would be escalating the public pressure if he didn't step down.

I don't know if he personally wrote the letter but I do think he decided to issue it and step down. Any suggestion otherwise remains a conspiracy unless proof is provided.

I also don't think it's a 'coup'. They have not unseated the President but instead withdrawn their support for him to run again. He'll serve out his democratically elected term.

We've all been saying for weeks they should do this so I don't buy the confected outrage now they have.

Originally Posted by Pierre

The DNC is a month away, no reason why nominees couldn’t put themselves forward. To have Harris as a fait accompli, is not very “democratic” from the Democratic Party.

They should have had an open and competitive primary but they didn't because they, and Biden himself, made sure it was a fait accompli to have the sitting President run again.

Now they can't go back to the actual voters it is all about Democratic internal politics anyway - not the public - so does it make much difference democratically?

[Pierre]

Originally Posted by Hugh

30th July is 2.5 days?

If a nominee can’t get 300 Delegates in a week, they’re not a credible candidate…

I was referring to the window to put yourself forward.

the window to file a notice of candidacy opens Thursday and closes Saturday, 27 July at 6pm

Not a lot if time to decide if you want to, or indeed can, participate. You’re probably not going to get the best candidates.

[jfman]

Ultimately the new process is less important - politically - than who knew what and when.

The chances of a credible candidate entering the race at this late stage are limited. Nobody can genuinely claim that it’s a reasonable opportunity to be afforded given the substantial costs of running a campaign and amounts generated in donations. There’s no Mayor in the 300 and somethingth biggest city jumping in for a 4 week campaign.

The pertinent question for the campaign - Republicans v Democrats - is only whether nobody had the opportunity by chance or by design.

If there’s a whistleblower out there that can evidence senior people within either the White House, party apparatus or both conspired to keep a secret Biden’s cognitive decline ahead of the primaries that would be hugely damaging.

[1andrew1]

Originally Posted by Hugh

30th July is 2.5 days?

I think someone's borrowed Truss's calculator.

[Pierre]

Originally Posted by 1andrew1

I think someone's borrowed Truss's calculator.

https://www.cableforum.uk/board/show...3&postcount=50

[Dave42]

Obarma endorses Harris

https://news.sky.com/story/proud-bar...-race-13185179

[jfman]

In the middle of the night seems an odd way to do it.

I thought they’d really pull out all the stops and have him introduce her at a rally.

I am not sure why Obama took time, I assume it's just in case she didn't become the nominee. Obama is probably the best outrider/campaigner the Democrats have so they probably wanted to keep him out of the fray until it was done. I am sure once it was her they planned the announcement at the choosing of the Harris campaign.

Originally Posted by Damien

I am not sure why Obama took time, I assume it's just in case she didn't become the nominee. Obama is probably the best outrider/campaigner the Democrats have so they probably wanted to keep him out of the fray until it was done. I am sure once it was her they planned the announcement at the choosing of the Harris campaign.

Probably to space the major endorsements out, rather than all at once…

[jfman]

I don’t think Biden, Obama, Pelosi and the current Congressional leadership could have all gone at once without fuelling accusations of a coronation.

Biden obviously had to - to not would be a strong rebuke of his own VP (and directly questions his own judgement).

https://www.newsweek.com/jd-vance-le...-polls-1929470

JD Vance Is the Least Liked VP Nominee in Decades, According to Polls

JD Vance is the first non-incumbent vice presidential nominee to have a net-negative favorable rating after a convention since 1980, according to poll numbers.

The Ohio senator's net favorable rating was at -6 points after the Republican National Convention (RNC), according to CNN's senior data reporter Harry Enten. This is far behind the general average since 2000, which was +19 points.

Enten explained the numbers on Erin Burnett OutFront, which cited The Associated Press as the source.

"It's in negative net territory, negative—look at that—negative," he said. "I have gone all the way back since 1980. He is the first guy, immediately following a convention—a VP pick—who actually has a net-negative favorable rating. The average since 2000 is +19 points. J.D. Vance [is] making history in the completely wrong way."

I wonder why Trump’s previous VP didn’t just hang in there?

Trump’s problem now is that for him to dump Vance is to admit he made a mistake. He should dump Vance - but is he capable of doing it?