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				Maybe between fares, but they always slow down once a fare is on board. Time is money as in "more time, is more money". 
			
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 Not around here they don't.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			09-05-2019, 22:06
			
			
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				My argument isn’t "all or nothing" - it’s mitigating the impact (in many  ways) of speed; no one is advocating 10 or 0mph, that’s just a straw man argument. 
			
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 Of course its not a strawman argument, there is nothing magical about 20mph, the same argument could be applied to any speed, 29mph is technically safer than 30mph - and 30mph in itself is 'safer' than when it was first set, as cars doing 30mph can now stop much quicker, and are designed to casue less "damage" to humans if they hit you.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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			09-05-2019, 22:10
			
			
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			20 mph in built up areas is fine by me but I would like them to increase the speed limit in motorways...
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			09-05-2019, 22:13
			
			
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				20 mph in built up areas is fine by me but I would like them to increase the speed limit in motorways... 
			
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 Then people would just go faster than the new 'speed limit'.....
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			09-05-2019, 22:42
			
			
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				Then people would just go faster than the new 'speed limit'..... 
			
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			10-05-2019, 06:31
			
			
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			23-08-2024, 03:06
			
			
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			LOL.   
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				Three of the five stages of the Junior Tour of Wales, which starts on Friday, have been changed as support vehicles would not be able to keep up with the riders without speeding.
			
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			23-08-2024, 10:32
			
			
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			A trial of Next Gen Speed Cameras in this city detected 1000's of vehicles above the 20mph limit. But after those under 26mph (the tolerance limit) were discarded, one type of vehicle was found to be regularly exceeding the limit. It was the bin lorries, travelling to-and-from the city tip or recycling centre.
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			23-08-2024, 12:27
			
			
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			its a 20 mph zone down my street,but it's next to a set of traffic lights so cars use it as a rat run to avoid the lights and come down here like a bat out of hell .
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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 I especially like this bit:  Speed limits do not apply to cyclists
I can legally cycle at a speed that will annoy other road users and legally drive under 20mph that will also annoy other road users.
 
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				Until one of them gets you back.    
			
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				Dream on.    
			
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 Yeah, I know a couple of other muppets who also thought that, then found out bikes dont win against cars.  
Made a mess of them, one more than the other. Being a dick just means you eventually meet an even bigger one.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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				Yeah, I know a couple of other muppets who also thought that, then found out bikes dont win against cars.  
Made a mess of them, one more than the other. Being a dick just means you eventually meet an even bigger one. 
			
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 Sigh. Call me old-fashioned but I've never thought of complying with the law as 'being a dick'.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			LOL, I was referring to them.   
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				I can legally cycle at a speed that will annoy other road users and legally drive under 20mph that will also annoy other road users. 
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 You may be "complying with the law" but you're obviously also doing it just to be a bit of 'dick'.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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