M&S tells Muslim staff they CAN refuse to serve customers buying alcohol or pork

[solitaire]

Customers provide profits for shops don't they? If these people don't want to serve customers they should be sacked, irrespective of their beliefs. There is far too much of this political nonsense going on nowadays.

[Stuart]

Originally Posted by TheDaddy

The staff members in question wouldn't get on very well at 'call me halal', they're quite happy to sell me a lump of ham, booze and a lottery ticket at any given time. How comes they can do it and tens of thousands of.pakistani shop keepers manage the same but these two attention seekers can't?

I didn't say I thought the staff were right to be offended, merely that they have the right to be offended. Massive difference..

[Gary L]

Originally Posted by Maggy J

Frankly I would have just left and gone elsewhere.Not because I've anything against religious beliefs but because I refuse to have my time wasted..

How many trips to different shops finding one that will serve you would it take to crack you?

Originally Posted by Gary L

How many trips to different shops finding one that will serve you would it take to crack you?

Since it appears to have happened in one shop out of hundreds of thousands, that scenario is unlikely....

[Gary L]

Originally Posted by Hugh

Since it appears to have happened in one shop out of hundreds of thousands, that scenario is unlikely....

But the scenario has happened.
the question is how many shops would it take to crack you and blame religious beliefs, and not just a bit of time wasting. when in each shop they were part of this psychological test of mine?

The one in hundreds of thousand scenario happened - you are positing a much more unlikely scenario, where it happens multiple times.

[Gary L]

Originally Posted by Hugh

The one in hundreds of thousand scenario happened - you are positing a much more unlikely scenario, where it happens multiple times.

I bet you're no fun at Xmas when the unlikely questions out the crackers get read out.

do you ever play pretend?

Originally Posted by Gary L

do you ever play pretend?

When we were 5 years old yes.Makes me wonder just how old you are.

Back to the topic please.

[TheDaddy]

Originally Posted by Stuart

I didn't say I thought the staff were right to be offended, merely that they have the right to be offended. Massive difference..

If they'd chosen a profession where they aren't surrounded by such products they probably would have that right but they didn't and m&s are so scared of being labelled some sort if 'ism' they won't tell them to shove of.

[Hom3r]

Personally you are employed to do a job.

You are under contract to do what the job requires. you cannot get a job a lifesaver in a pool and refuse to enter the water for whatever reason you chose.

At the end of the day if you are working on a til you swipe the good through and take payment end of, if you object to whatever somebody else is buy look for another job.

But I reckon that a non management worker on a store gets paid more money for tills than shop floor or warehouse.

[broadbandking]

I was outraged reading this story, she should have been sacked or should not have taken the job in the first place, I remember my dad, me and my mum went a brought a TV and the sales rep at the end refused to shake my mums hand because he was a Muslim and we didn't think at the time but I wish now my dad would have told him to sick the TV where the sun don't shine, also reminds me of the Muslim who tried to cop a few quid when the police force got him to serve pork.
As long as they don't eat that OK in Islam but some Muslims take it too far, I just hope people wake up and stand up to these Muslims that just want to cause issues.

[Sigma]

I don't really see the big deal. It seems it was just a mistake on the part of M&S, who placed a member of staff in an unsuitable role.

If a shop really did have a policy where a staff member could decide not to serve me based on their own beliefs, whatever those beliefs may be, then I would boycott it out of principle alone, but that doesn't appear to have been the case here.

[Hom3r]

At the end of the day this is all BS, I've worked with people that states they cannot eat/drink certain food, but jet I've worked with somebody who would drink like a fish, and eat during daylight hours when she should have been fasting.

Another Jewish guy would eat and enjoy Bacon sarnies.

[Pierre]

Originally Posted by Hugh

It's not a special case for Islam - as posted on the first page of this thread, from a link to the Telegraph.

In that case I don't have an issue with it, as long as it is applied fairly across the board.

M&S obviously made a cock up by putting the Muslim on a checkout, when they should have been in the flower arranging section.