The Car tax disc is to be scrapped after 93 years

[BenMcr]

And if they are in a car park, they must have got there somehow, meaning they are driving around, and are likely to get flagged up in a police car, who can deal with it more immediately than reporting it.

I mean it's hardly likely to still be in the car park by the time someone comes to check now is it

[banjo]

Originally Posted by martyh

I still don't understand why you want to go around checking car tax in car parks

I don't , but I and others might want to,this information should and has been instantly displayed on the vehicle, why change it, unless you don't have taxation on your vehicle ?

[BenMcr]

Originally Posted by banjo

I don't , but I and others might want to,this information should and has been instantly displayed on the vehicle, why change it, unless you don't have taxation on your vehicle ?

As has been said, those that want to purposely avoid taxation can currently easily create a fake disc that will pass a casual glance i.e. the thing that most normal people might do at a tax disc.

Those that want to check further such as the police or anyone else, have tools instantly available to them to enable them to do so.

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I wouldn't be surprised that if you can phone the DVLA with the vehicle details as well as using the online link

Originally Posted by banjo

I don't , but I and others might want to,this information should and has been instantly displayed on the vehicle, why change it, unless you don't have taxation on your vehicle ?

because we don't need to have it anymore ,it is an outdated system and an unnecessary expense and apart from that an out of date disc or missing doesn't mean the vehicle isn't taxed

[banjo]

I have made my position quite clear, I can see by the amount of posts you both have that you will go on for ever and a day, so I will now let you get on with it.

Originally Posted by martyh

because we don't need to have it anymore ,it is an outdated system and an unnecessary expense and apart from that an out of date disc or missing doesn't mean the vehicle isn't taxed

[Taf]

I was slightly involved in installing ANPR cameras on both vehicles and motorway gantrys several years ago.

They are all over the place now, including supermarket carparks and petrol stations. Most are automatically relaying all info back the DVLA who can then issue alerts or fines automatically. There are also DVLA vehicles with corner-mounted ANPR cameras that cruise about clamping vehicles as they go.



Any plod on the beat could call in for a PNC2 check on a vehicle, and most vehicles had access too, so years later it's probably even more advanced. And don't forget that the ANPR system is connected not just to the Road Tax database, but to the MOT Test and insurance databases too. Very Big Brother but, AFAIC, very worthwhile.

[richard s]

Originally Posted by BenMcr

They do don't they - how much you pay is connected to CO2 emissions, which I'd expect in turn is related to MPG.

I wonder how much tax jet aircraft pay for their CO2 emissions!

[Wad_2002]

Originally Posted by heero_yuy

Aren't they exempt from fuel duty and VAT on fuel? The only tax that I know related to emissions is the passenger duty.

I would not be suprised if you right

[Arthurgray50@blu]

Police officers can tell within a matter of seconds regarding vehicles tax, insured and mot etc.

I thin the only problem that will come up, is car thiefs. They will have a field day with this. There are more vehicles on the road that have dodgy plates, all they will need to do is nick someones else plates. And police cannot be everywhere.

[BenMcr]

How is that any different to now though?

[Arthurgray50@blu]

Car thiefs are always one step ahead of the law. As soon as one method comes up, they will think of something else.

[Derek]

Originally Posted by BenMcr

And if they are in a car park, they must have got there somehow, meaning they are driving around, and are likely to get flagged up in a police car, who can deal with it more immediately than reporting it.

I mean it's hardly likely to still be in the car park by the time someone comes to check now is it

Having a tax disc that can be glanced at to see if the VRM matches the disc and the plates while you stop a car is one of the biggest giveaways to a stolen vehicle right now to see whether it's worthwhile doing a full check of the vehicle and it's occupants via PNC.

Contrary to the beliefs of some this information is not sitting at their fingertips. ANPR cars are still quite rare, nothing right now stops stolen or cloned plates effectively and even getting through to a PNC operator on the radio can be a challenge at busy times.

Crap idea. Like so many thought up by someone who is looking at a single function without seeing the bigger picture.

[Dash: CF noob]

What you all fail to mention is the fact that most tax disc's are still issued by the post office, which no longer belongs to us.

[BenMcr]

Originally Posted by Dash: CF noob

What you all fail to mention is the fact that most tax disc's are still issued by the post office, which no longer belongs to us.

The Post Office does still belong to us. It's separate from The Royal Mail.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Post_Office_Ltd