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Old 05-10-2013, 19:19   #46
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Re: Camelot: Damn Cheek to make more profit

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It might be but I've always had my doubts, when the draw is on the TV the guy who says what numbers have come out and how many times it's come out and how much they've raised for charity raises my eyebrows.

No computer is that fast which brings me to the conclusion that something isn't right.
For statistics with numbers computers would be instant, if you think about it the statistics will already all be worked out before the draw.
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For statistics with numbers computers would be instant, if you think about it the statistics will already all be worked out before the draw.
So they'll know which numbers are going to be drawn before the show then?
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So they'll know which numbers are going to be drawn before the show then?
lol of course not, but when they see a number on the screen the computer will instantly know how many times it has been drawn before, obviously.
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lol of course not, but when they see a number on the screen the computer will instantly know how many times it has been drawn before, obviously.
Ah right
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Re: Camelot: Damn Cheek to make more profit

Won't they know the last time a particular number was drawn, since the time of the previous draw, a few days earlier.
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Re: Camelot: Damn Cheek to make more profit

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It might be but I've always had my doubts, when the draw is on the TV the guy who says what numbers have come out and how many times it's come out and how much they've raised for charity raises my eyebrows.

No computer is that fast which brings me to the conclusion that something isn't right.
You obviously don't work with computers much.

All the previous numbers and statistics are stored in a database, and as soon as the new number is drawn, it is entered into the database - a modern server / programme would calculate the appropriate numbers in under a second.
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You obviously don't work with computers much.

All the previous numbers and statistics are stored in a database, and as soon as the new number is drawn, it is entered into the database - a modern server / programme would calculate the appropriate numbers in under a second.
I work with computers most of the day thank you.
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Re: Camelot: Damn Cheek to make more profit

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I work with computers most of the day thank you.
But do you design / build / implement complex business and research systems?
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Re: Camelot: Damn Cheek to make more profit

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But do you design / build / implement complex business and research systems?
No one can match up to you Hugh, lol.
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But do you design / build / implement complex business and research systems?
Now your being silly.
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Now your being silly.
No, I am just trying to point out the lack of logic in your proposition.

Modern computers, and the business systems running on them, can process millions of calculations per second - 20 years of Lottery results, and the patterns arising from them, isn't really difficult.

You just store the number of times that number has been drawn, and the last date it was drawn, then display that information on the commentator's monitor when the number is drawn that week - morsel of micturition...
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No, I am just trying to point out the lack of logic in your proposition.

Modern computers, and the business systems running on them, can process millions of calculations per second - 20 years of Lottery results, and the patterns arising from them, isn't really difficult.

You just store the number of times that number has been drawn, and the last date it was drawn, then display that information on the commentator's monitor when the number is drawn that week - morsel of micturition...
Clearly the lottery statistics computer is so advanced it was built for the NSA then sold to Camelot when the financial crisis hit. Did you know it can give you statistics as the lottery is going out live! Be wary though. They're scanning all your lottery tickets and sending out crap numbers. An easy way around this is sending an email to an Edward Snowden and asking for the weeks numbers. He reportedly has a huge gob.
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Re: Camelot: Damn Cheek to make more profit

The systems we design and build at work search through 10's of thousands of records of pre-announced parcel data and finds the correct destination in under 500ms.

To get informatin of lottery numbers you have to search through 49 records you could probably use a few sheets of paper and be quick enough.

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It would be easy to maintain a list on paper. There are only 2 draw a week when something changes. Keep a list of the draw number of when last drawn for each of the 49 numbers. If a number if drawn again, subtract the current draw number from the draw number on the list, add 1 and you have how many draws ago it was last drawn. You could even prepare a list each time doing the calculations in advance and just reading off this new list.
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Sorry wasted effort. Just because a number has been drawn or not drawn has no bearing on its liklyhood of being drawn again.
This is about the question of how could they say when ball x was last drawn so quickly when the draw is live.
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