TiVo speed - not good enough?
02-09-2011, 15:09
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Re: TiVo speed - not good enough?
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Oh and bring out the bloody qwerty keypad, or an app to control TiVo fully already!
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The TiVo companion app needs a new firmware drop before it can be released. When that happens the other network remote apps will work too, like Peanut Plus ( http://itunes.apple.com/gb/app/peanu...422349681?mt=8) not especially useful you might say but it does give you a full query keyboard on your iPhone. 
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02-09-2011, 15:19
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Re: TiVo speed - not good enough?
Sorry, I still can't see where I compared Google Engineers to TiVo engineers which is what you claim.
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02-09-2011, 15:23
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Re: TiVo speed - not good enough?
You can hardly compare Virgin Media a small cable company that serves 50% of the UK with Google who are worlds biggest search provider have billions in the bank and have obsence size data centres to handle their traffic. The same goes for Facebook the scale of these two dwarf TiVo and Virgin by quite some magnitude.
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02-09-2011, 15:26
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Re: TiVo speed - not good enough?
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Sorry, I still can't see where I compared Google Engineers to TiVo engineers which is what you claim.
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Similar to how Google personalises your search results based on your Google preferences and search history then? Or how facebook displays information relevant to you when you are navigating the site?
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02-09-2011, 16:04
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Re: TiVo speed - not good enough?
My point exactly. It is not comparing engineers. What I said was against the claim that TiVo is 'pulling personalised data from everywhere and therefore there will be a lag'.
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You can hardly compare Virgin Media a small cable company that serves 50% of the UK with Google who are worlds biggest search provider have billions in the bank and have obsence size data centres to handle their traffic. The same goes for Facebook the scale of these two dwarf TiVo and Virgin by quite some magnitude.
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My dedicated server can manage it just fine, never mind Google or Facebooks datacenters.
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02-09-2011, 16:35
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Re: TiVo speed - not good enough?
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My point exactly. It is not comparing engineers. What I said was against the claim that TiVo is 'pulling personalised data from everywhere and therefore there will be a lag'.
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My dedicated server can manage it just fine, never mind Google or Facebooks datacenters.
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Who do you think write the code and design the hardware?
That would be engineers (software and hardware) - Google are proud of the fact that the highest status in the company is to be an engineer; every one else supports them in their tasks.
And does your dedicated server have to handle millions of requests frequently and repeatedly?
Point of information - Google R&D budget is over $3 billion, TiVo's is around $60 million (but the good news is that it will be increased by $25-$30 million this year).
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02-09-2011, 18:05
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Re: TiVo speed - not good enough?
It's worth remembering that the build on consumers boxes isn't an indication of the speed of the current internal software builds.
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02-09-2011, 18:50
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Re: TiVo speed - not good enough?
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And does your dedicated server have to handle millions of requests frequently and repeatedly?
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No, because it doesn't need to. Can it handle what is required of it - several millions requests per day (a single page could consist of 100 requests - database, page images, the page itself etc)? Yes. Can Google handle what is required of it? Yes. Can TiVo handle what is required of it? I would say yes - but it is the hardware in homes holding it back. Data is fetched instantly - it is the displaying and rendering that is slow.
You are still defending TiVo whilst missing the point that I am talking about ALL set top boxes. Could you maybe explain to me why a 'dumb' PVR, for example, a basic Freeview recorder also suffers from slight lag? Is it because it has to load data constantly whilst loading the recorded programmes page? No. It is down to cost of the components used.
I could use a £1000 PC as a PVR and everything would be instantaneous - but I choose to use a TiVo (and V+ before that, and a series 1 TiVo before that). For a 'premium' product, the UI experience should be much smoother navigating between screens.
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02-09-2011, 19:07
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Re: TiVo speed - not good enough?
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It's worth remembering that the build on consumers boxes isn't an indication of the speed of the current internal software builds. |
That's certainly correct
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02-09-2011, 19:29
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Re: TiVo speed - not good enough?
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That's certainly correct |
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02-09-2011, 19:39
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Re: TiVo speed - not good enough?
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02-09-2011, 20:29
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Re: TiVo speed - not good enough?
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That's certainly correct |
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How much faster are these "internal" builds you talk of?
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04-09-2011, 23:51
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Re: TiVo speed - not good enough?
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How much faster are these "internal" builds you talk of? |
Not allowed to say 
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08-09-2011, 20:13
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Re: TiVo speed - not good enough?
I hope that the update can bring the speed of the HD UI inline with that of the old SD sections that still remain. (getting rid of the SD menus in the process would be the icing on the cake)
If that happens, along with all the other changes/new features planned in the new firmware, I will be a happy chappy
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