Building a pc

in fairness a 500 watt decent psu should do the job. In tests ive meassured my machine ( higher spec and multiple drives with a 5870) and under load the draw has been less than 400 watts. For it to be the PSU imo it would have to be faulty not underpowered

[sniper007]

Install the MINIMUM components. i.e. One single stick of ram (in the correct slot, read the manual that came with the mobo). Make sure the CPU is in the slot properly the correct way around (check the arrow on the corner of the cpu corresponds to the place on the mobo). Make sure all PSU cables are connected to the various power points on the mobo (ATX 24 pin, 4/8pin, etc). Then install the graphics card and ensure it has a PCI-e power connector connected to it.

Then DO NOT install anything else like HDDs, CD/DVDRom or anything. Just try booting the Computer. What happens? Do you get any activity when observing the computer with the case door/side panel off? i.e. Does the CPU fan attempt to spin? Does the PSU come on and the fan start? Do any LEDs come on or beeps from the mobo?

Obviously ensure that the monitor is connected with a VGA/DVI cable to the graphics card you have installed.

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If you could also post a picture looking inside the computer and how you have it all connected, this might help.

Originally Posted by damien c

Does the motherboard have a 4 or a 8 pin socket next to the cpu?

If it has a 8 pin but 4 coverd have you removed the cover and tried it with all 8 pin's connected to the board from the PSU?

I would 1st try disconnecting all the drive's from the board and see if it display's a image or not on the screen when the graphic's card is connected, then if it does connect each drive and try again 1 at a time and see what happen's, if you still get no signal then I am certain it will be a faulty board and or graphic's card but more than likely the board alone.

Have you used the correct lead to the graphic's card, not trying to say your stupid but if it requires a 8 pin power connector just make sure you have used a pci-e not a 8 pin cpu power lead.

If all lead's are correctly installed and drive's etc and you still get no display on the monitor, try another graphic's card if you can and try the new graphic's card in another pc to rule that out.

Or your other option is to send the everything back and get them to test everything and replace anything that might be faulty.

Thanks for the reply Damien ,the cpu power lead is only a 4pin ,the psu lead does have the option of another connection 8pin but it is not needed .The mobo supply is 24 pin and all connected ,the gfx card has it's own supply using a pcie connection to the card (4 pin).I have come to the conclusion that it is a faulty board mainly because of the issue with the dvd drive cutting out as soon as the IDE is connected so i have ordered a new one from novatech a different board as the service from ASUS is diabolical ,so i ordered one of these this afternoon to arrive tomorrow
GIGABYTE GA-880GM-D2H AMD 880G (SOCKET AM3) MOTHERBOARD




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Originally Posted by ooogemaflop

I believe power connections are keyed you cant fit an 8 pin 12 aux to a pci e it simply wont fit

you are correct they are not the same shape plus each connecting block on the psu is labelled as to what it is for

[sniper007]

Can you explain what you mean buy "the dvd drive cutting out as soon as the IDE is connected". Explain the process/steps you took. What are you defining as "cutting out" ? Surely you cannot test the IDE drive as you cannot get the system booted? You are not making a lot of sense. I mean it sounds like you are booting the system and half way through boot you connect an ide cable to the dvd drive? What are you expecting to happen?

Originally Posted by sniper007

Install the MINIMUM components. i.e. One single stick of ram (in the correct slot, read the manual that came with the mobo). Make sure the CPU is in the slot properly the correct way around (check the arrow on the corner of the cpu corresponds to the place on the mobo). Make sure all PSU cables are connected to the various power points on the mobo (ATX 24 pin, 4/8pin, etc). Then install the graphics card and ensure it has a PCI-e power connector connected to it.

Then DO NOT install anything else like HDDs, CD/DVDRom or anything. Just try booting the Computer. What happens? Do you get any activity when observing the computer with the case door/side panel off? i.e. Does the CPU fan attempt to spin? Does the PSU come on and the fan start? Do any LEDs come on or beeps from the mobo?

Obviously ensure that the monitor is connected with a VGA/DVI cable to the graphics card you have installed.

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If you could also post a picture looking inside the computer and how you have it all connected, this might help.

I tried that last night ,just had the gfx attached no post at all .The problem is that there are no on board graphics so i cannot connect a monitor to the board (another reason to send it back)

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Originally Posted by sniper007

Can you explain what you mean buy "the dvd drive cutting out as soon as the IDE is connected". Explain the process/steps you took. What are you defining as "cutting out" ? Surely you cannot test the IDE drive as you cannot get the system booted? You are not making a lot of sense.

When the dvd drive is connected with the powerr connection and the IDE cable the drive does not work no light on the front and the drawer does not open ,remove the IDE cable and the power comes back on and the drawer opens ,i find this confusing as i thought the IDE cable is only carrying information not power ,i have tried different cables and the dvd works fine in the other pc

[sniper007]

Originally Posted by martyh

I tried that last night ,just had the gfx attached no post at all .The problem is that there are no on board graphics so i cannot connect a monitor to the board (another reason to send it back)

When you say you had JUST the graphics card attached, do you mean you literally only had the graphics card plugged in and no cpu/ram installed?

Originally Posted by sniper007

When you say you had JUST the graphics card attached, do you mean you literally only had the graphics card plugged in and no cpu/ram installed?

sorry ,ram, cpu,hd were connected ,i did try it without a hd connected

[sniper007]

Originally Posted by martyh

I tried that last night ,just had the gfx attached no post at all .The problem is that there are no on board graphics so i cannot connect a monitor to the board (another reason to send it back)


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When the dvd drive is connected with the powerr connection and the IDE cable the drive does not work no light on the front and the drawer does not open ,remove the IDE cable and the power comes back on and the drawer opens ,i find this confusing as i thought the IDE cable is only carrying information not power ,i have tried different cables and the dvd works fine in the other pc

I would suggest you forget about the DVDRW drive for now and focus on finding the fault. So...with CPU/RAM/GFX installed, you press the power button on the PC (I assume this is wired into the motherboard so you can power it on?) you get nothing? No fans spinning up? No LEDs? Have you tried reseting the CMOS? DO you know what is involved with this?

You could also try swapping out the ram for different sticks.

Failing that, I would try your spare power supply just to see if you can get an output on the screen and POST (Power on self test).

Do you not get any LEDs or beeps on the board during boot? Some motherboards will beep or present LEDs during post do help diagnose the fault. i.e. Say 1 LED = CPU found, 2 LED = Ram found, 3 LED = Gfx found, 4 LED = running post. It could do something like that with beeps instead.

Originally Posted by sniper007

I would suggest you forget about the DVDRW drive for now and focus on finding the fault. So...with CPU/RAM/GFX installed, you press the power button on the PC (I assume this is wired into the motherboard so you can power it on?) you get nothing? No fans spinning up? No LEDs? Have you tried reseting the CMOS? DO you know what is involved with this?

Yep ,reset the cmos this morning as per manufactures instuctions ,fans work power button works but still no post ,the reason why i am concerened about the dvdrw is that without that we cannot install the chipset or the drivers for the gfx .Having said that the gfx should have a basic resolution to enable the loading of the bios screen without loading any drivers which brings me back to a mobo fault ,should mention the fan on gfx is working

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Originally Posted by sniper007

I would suggest you forget about the DVDRW drive for now and focus on finding the fault. So...with CPU/RAM/GFX installed, you press the power button on the PC (I assume this is wired into the motherboard so you can power it on?) you get nothing? No fans spinning up? No LEDs? Have you tried reseting the CMOS? DO you know what is involved with this?

You could also try swapping out the ram for different sticks.

Failing that, I would try your spare power supply just to see if you can get an output on the screen and POST (Power on self test).

Do you not get any LEDs or beeps on the board during boot? Some motherboards will beep or present LEDs during post do help diagnose the fault. i.e. Say 1 LED = CPU found, 2 LED = Ram found, 3 LED = Gfx found, 4 LED = running post. It could do something like that with beeps instead.

That was going to be my next question ,there have been no beeps at all ,all we have is the SB light on solid

its the mobo mate

saying that I would try the different psu just in case

[sniper007]

You could try the GFX card in the other PCI-e slot. I assume you have it in slot 1 currently? That motherboard does NOT have what we refer to as "onboard" Graphics. This means it will not have a connection to a monitor natively. You HAVE to use the graphics card (the 5770 you have bought) to output to a monitor. Is it possible you have not set the monitor to pick up the digital (DVI) signal or vice versa with VGA analogue? You should try setting the monitor to different inputs manually incase it is not auto detecting it correctly.

Originally Posted by sniper007

You could try the GFX card in the other PCI-e slot. I assume you have it in slot 1 currently? That motherboard does NOT have what we refer to as "onboard" Graphics. This means it will not have a connection to a monitor natively. You HAVE to use the graphics card (the 5770 you have bought) to output to a monitor. Is it possible you have not set the monitor to pick up the digital (DVI) signal or vice versa with VGA analogue? You should try setting the monitor to different inputs manually incase it is not auto detecting it correctly.

Yes i tried both pcie slots and the monotor is connected via a dvi -vga adapter to th gfx card .As i said earlier i have ordered a new board

GIGABYTE GA-880GM-D2H AMD 880G (SOCKET AM3) MOTHERBOARD

which does have onboard grafics and will make any fault finding with the gfx (if any) easier plus the reviews say it is a more reliable bobo

[sniper007]

OK let us know how you get on

SUCCESS

my son now has a AMD PhenomII black, gigabit GA-880-D2H mobo 4 gig corsair dual channel ram with a ATI radion HD5770 GFX using a HD portable and a vga 15" monitor


The original problem as posted earlier was not the board it was the processor ,when the stuff was delivered i was at work and my son put the processor on the board and bent a pin causing one ram slot to stop working and the peculiar problem with the DVDRW ,but lucky for me the pin was the one next to the triangle so i was able to straighten it and now it works .It boots into windows in under 30secs is blisteringly fast and whisper quit

So thank you to everyone who assisted

you were lucky it didnt snap

Glad its sorted now though