Islamic group's plan to march through Wootton Bassett - Page 4

Sirius · 02-01-2010, 17:14

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Originally Posted by devilincarnate

True as what did happen to RUSSIA when they tried to invade and sort out AFGHANISTAN after 7 yaers they left after getting their ass kicked by the TALIBAN . S o what are we meant to do ?

Was it the taliban they were fighting ???

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Romancing the Taliban
As the Russians withdrew from Afghanistan in early 1989, American policymakers celebrated with champagne, while the country itself collapsed into virtual anarchy. Almost a quarter of the population was living in refugee camps and most of the country was in ruins. Different factions of the mujahideen struggled for power in the countryside, while the government of Muhammed Najibullah, the last Soviet-installed president controlled Kabul. Eventually, in April 1992, Kabul fell to some of the mujahideen factions and Burhannudin Rabbani was de dared president, but civil war continued unabated. Hekmatyar in particular was dissatisfied with the new distribution 0 power. With his huge stock of U.S.-supplied weapons, h began an artillery and rocket assault on Kabul that lasted for almost three years, even after he was appointed prime minister in 1993. "The barrage...killed more than 10,000 Afghans [drove] hundreds of thousands into squalid refugee camps, created political chaos, and blocked millions of exiles from returning." The rest of the country disintegrated into isolated fiefdoms dominated by local warlords.
In 1994, a new group, the Taliban (Pashtun for "students"), emerged on the scene. Its members came from madrassas set up by the Pakistani government along the border and funded by the U.S., Britain, and the Saudis, where they had received theological indoctrination and military training. Thousands of young men-refugees and orphans from the war in Afghanistan-became the foot soldiers of this movement:

http://www.thirdworldtraveler.com/Af...A_Taliban.html

**Chris** · 02-01-2010, 17:16

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Originally Posted by devilincarnate

True as what did happen to RUSSIA when they tried to invade and sort out AFGHANISTAN after 7 yaers they left after getting their ass kicked by the TALIBAN . S o what are we meant to do ?

Sigh ... please, go and read a little history. The facts are not hard to find.

The USSR got a good kicking at the hands of a loose alliance of Afghan warlords collectively known at the time as the Mujahideen. They were well funded by a number of foreign powers, notably Regan's USA.

It was the failure of the Mujahideen to set up an effective government in the wake of the Soviet withdrawl that led to the formation and triumph of the Taliban. Once the Russians were gone, the warlords were more interested in squabbling amongst themselves settling old scores (a very traditional Afghan pursuit). It was relatively easy for the religious nutters to form up and take over, especially as they were being egged on by other religious nutters inside Pakistan who thought that turning an entire country into an oppressive religious theocracy would be an interesting experiment which, if successful, could be repeated in Pakistan itself.

Derek · 02-01-2010, 17:19

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Originally Posted by devilincarnate

yes and most of them will be the police

Care to elaborate on that?

Bricktop · 02-01-2010, 17:23

Will the police come down hard on them the way they do to the EDL.

This march is just going to attract BNP and other right wing followers, its going to turn into a huge battle royale.

devilincarnate · 02-01-2010, 17:23

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Originally Posted by Sirius

Was it the taliban they where fighting ???

Yes it was , chek out the 19800 insurrection where OSB got involved as a grop that turned in to al-queda

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soviet_war_in_Afghanistan

02-01-2010, 17:24

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Originally Posted by Chris

Sigh ... please, go and read a little history. The facts are not hard to find.

The USSR got a good kicking at the hands of a loose alliance of Afghan warlords collectively known at the time as the Mujahideen. They were well funded by a number of foreign powers, notably Regan's USA.

It was the failure of the Mujahideen to set up an effective government in the wake of the Soviet withdrawl that led to the formation and triumph of the Taliban. Once the Russians were gone, the warlords were more interested in squabbling amongst themselves settling old scores (a very traditional Afghan pursuit). It was relatively easy for the religious nutters to form up and take over, especially as they were being egged on by other religious nutters inside Pakistan who thought that turning an entire country into an oppressive religious theocracy would be an interesting experiment which, if successful, could be repeated in Pakistan itself.

yep funny how things work out ,the USA funded the Mujahideen simply because it was against the USSR not for any other reason imo ,they funded them ,armed them and now it's come back to bite them and us right up the jacksy ,i wonder what it would be like now if the USA had left well alone ?

devilincarnate · 02-01-2010, 17:27

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Originally Posted by Derek S

Care to elaborate on that?

No i do not wish to eleborate on that , but i do have quite a few friend that are police officers and that is the end of that !

pickled_wizard · 02-01-2010, 17:28

choudary has got what he wanted - everybody is now talking about it. I doubt whether even a hoon (refer order-order.com for translation) like him would have the undercarriage to attempt actually marching through Wooten Bassett.

But if he does, I'll be there to show my support for the troops

02-01-2010, 17:31

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Originally Posted by pickled_wizard

choudary has got what he wanted - everybody is now talking about it. I doubt whether even a hoon (refer order-order.com for translation) like him would have the undercarriage to attempt actually marching through Wooten Bassett.

But if he does, I'll be there to show my support for the troops

well they have threatened in the past but never followed up ,as it stands at the moment they haven't even applied for permission

devilincarnate · 02-01-2010, 17:37

Hey is it just me or do other people have a niggly feeling in the back of my head that this may be a ploy so that they will all be able to log on and search as we are resarching this ? As the security services will be lookin in to all the searches for afghan etc.

papa smurf · 02-01-2010, 17:38

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Originally Posted by devilincarnate

Hey is it just me or do other people have a niggly feeling in the back of my head that this may be a ploy so that they will all be able to log on and search as we are resarching this ?

what ?

**Damien** · 02-01-2010, 17:41

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Originally Posted by devilincarnate

Hey is it just me or do other people have a niggly feeling in the back of my head that this may be a ploy so that they will all be able to log on and search as we are resarching this ? As the security services will be lookin in to all the searches for afghan etc.

I would hope the security services would have more elegant method of catching possible terrorists than Google..

devilincarnate · 02-01-2010, 17:43

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Originally Posted by papa smurf

what ?

What i mean is that this has been released and been posted on all the news pages . So then somebody will post it on various forums and start a debate on it and then people will start searching for points of view on the subject and that will stop the security services from looking at the data of certain websites ?

papa smurf · 02-01-2010, 17:44

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Originally Posted by Damien

I would hope the security services would have more elegant method of catching possible terrorists than Google..

cut backs eh

Sirius · 02-01-2010, 17:45

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Originally Posted by devilincarnate

Hey is it just me or do other people have a niggly feeling in the back of my head that this may be a ploy so that they will all be able to log on and search as we are resarching this ? As the security services will be lookin in to all the searches for afghan etc.

Ok where did i put my tin foil hat