Ronnie biggs refused but now granted parole

[Mr Angry]

Would I be correct in assuming that if the jails were a bit bigger you'd be able to fit more bankers in?

[TheDaddy]

Originally Posted by Damien

Which source states he returned to work and retired for the pension?

Mad Frankie states it....

http://www.madfrankiefraser.co.uk/fr....htm~mainFrame

Originally Posted by TheDaddy

Mad Frankie states it....

http://www.madfrankiefraser.co.uk/frankiefraser.htm?viewpoints/views20.htm~mainFrame

Oh like I'm going to take that person's word on it....

I can't be sure those reports are not simply attempts (not from you personally) for fans of Ronnie Biggs to discredit the victim in order to try and lessen the seriousness of Mr Bigg's crimes.

Let's say it is true that Jack Mills left to take advantage of the pension, that still does not excuse Ronne Biggs escaping justice and living his better years with other peoples money. Something people who follow the law do not get and people who commit similar or even more minor crimes do not get.

He is still up on the deal, he would have had to spend the main years of his life in Jail but instead spent them in South America. Now he is back to face the little punishment that can be given people want to let him off that?

In my view the subsequent disrespect to the Justice System, and fleeing of justice is a serious crime for which he will never pay the full price.

Jack Straw is a despicable person and one whose judgement is fuzzy at best but even a blind squirrel can find the odd acorn by chance and thats the case here. Seriously this is a man that exploited every law he could to escape extradition and being quite open about his contempt for this country which only disappeared after he got seriously ill and had no more money so he is where he belongs and should stay there. Most people in this country will never have the standard of living this man had despite being honest, decent and hard working people all their lives and for anyone to be calling for this man to be given a break when he never gave one to anyone in his life makes me laugh.

[Pierre]

Whilst I have no love for R.Biggs.

He was a violent criminal, but not a murderer, who then escaped and put two fingers up the UK, and only returned to take advantage of the NHS.

However, he has served 10years since returning and I see very little point or common sense in wasting a cell to house his dying body.

Send him off to die somewhere and fill the cell with a higher priority criminal.

[G UK]

There is a reason we have prison sentences other than to keep dangerous people out of society. That is to act as a deterrent and message to any other would be criminals.

What message do you think letting somebody like Biggs out of jail early sends? That its alright to commit a violent robbery? Its OK to escape and live like a millionaire? After all if you do decide to come back when you've blown all the money you wont get made to do a full sentence and will get free healthcare for your failing health to boot.

[punky]

I think the most important thing to remember is if he hadn't have run, he'd be out now, parole or not.

[jamiefrost]

Originally Posted by heero_yuy

Biggs is never going to be a threat to anybody now, release the cell for the real nutters who menace society.

The only reason he's still inside is that he thumbed his nose to the "establishment" Something they cannot cope with. As for the "man of straw"

We still have enough room for the 'real nutters' (just) there are a lot of people in prision for far lesser crimes who could be released. Let him serve his time, then let him out.

If not we are letting him out for one of three reasons .

1. Old age
2. Illness
3. Served 1/3 third of his sentence.

If one of the above reasons is true then should we apply it to all prisoners. If so then

a) as soon as I get old I'm robbing banks to get money for my family or legging it abroad.

b) if I ever have the misfortune to be diagnosed as termianlly ill then it's of to the bank again.

JJ

Biggs might not be a menace to society anymore but at the time he was involved in crime he was and escaped punishment for his crime. Seriously are some of you saying that as long as you can evade justice for long enough you should get let off with reduced sentence because thats how it is coming across.

[Arthurgray50@blu]

I am now going to put another point across on this subject, and some of you won't like it.

As l said in an earlier thread, concerning lawyers, RB son's lawyer has stated that Jack Straw had broken the law by exceeding his powers, of overruling the parole board.
I know for a fact, that RB comitted a crime, l also realise that the guy escaped and went to Brazil, and returned to the UK, to 'use' the NHS, BUT everyone must remember, here is a guy, that is nearly dead, he has to be cared for as he cannot look after himself, he is a burden on the tax payer, wouldn't it be the humane thing, release him into a care home, where he will die in surroundings that is not a prison wing. There are more crimes commited today, then there was in those days, when the crime was comitted, and the *******s should fill his cell.

[papa smurf]

thats very sentimental wishy washy liberal thinking .
if you do the crime you must do the time.

[Arthurgray50@blu]

Don't worry, l will have the last luagh, The Biggs family ARE taking legal action, and that is all l will say on the subject.

[Derek]

Originally Posted by Arthurgray50@blu

Don't worry, l will have the last luagh, The Biggs family ARE taking legal action, and that is all l will say on the subject.

Hmmm, he has a nice line in lawyers.

He was a business associate of Serbian paramilitary leader Arkan (Željko Ražnatović)[3][2] and was one of the defence team in the trial of Saddam Hussein.[

Anyway the law says the final say for cases of that age rests with Jack Straw. He decided not to. End of story.

[Arthurgray50@blu]

Your wrong, his lawyer has said that a power that JS has used, is no longer legal, but anyway, l give up.