Mass driving test scams - Page 4

Russ · 11-10-2010, 23:04

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Originally Posted by warrigal

No when We could not come to an arrangement on payment, So I could be assured that it wasn't one of these Scamers, (I was scammed by the websites in Europe (614 Australian dollars)(350 Euro), promising to supply a EU Driving Licence from Eastern european Country that would be legal in the UK.

I asked that they provide a postal address for me to send payement too, They wouldn't provide That and they said it might endanger his contact inside the DVLA if he provided a address in the UK to send payment too.

So I haven't Proceeded yet, I am still trying to find the 1800 GBP to put the order in (for me thats 3000 AUD)

again I say GREED

I need a C1 class licence to drive a LGV vehicle( light truck, camper motor home) in UK /europe, My australian licence Class C (vehicle up to 4.5 ton) isn't accepted by the DVLA for change over, nor is it acepted to Drive a vehicle that size as a visitor to uk. Weights of heavey vehicles are different between Europe and Australian class, our Heavey vehicle licence start at 4.5 ton, and Europes start at 3.5 ton.

that way I tryed to get the eastern european website licence,Hungry or Germany Licence option, only to get scammed.
Were in Australia I can drive a light goods Truck 3 ton up, in Europe I can't, Just a car size vehicle.

A figment of your imagination. Nothing more.

warrigal · 11-10-2010, 23:04

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Originally Posted by Maggy J

And what happens if you are involved in an accident?Which is more than likely..this is a small country with a dense population and our roads are full to bursting with traffic unlike the smaller population of Australia in a much larger continent.

You have to see that the idea is completely mad.

Your people I take it you are from the UK can come here to Australia drive what you like, the government deptments will give you a Australian licence.
you can get Insurance.

We have recipricol aggrements on licenceing.

But because I am not a Resident (perminent of the UK) I can't change a licence over, and I can't get UK driver or Vehicle insurance, or even a MOT certificate done.

Hom3r · 11-10-2010, 23:06

Well when you get stopped, and the police find your DL is dodgy you will got to jail and be unlikely to get bail as you would be deemed a 'flight risk'.

When you are found guilty you will go to a british prision, you may get lucky and get a transfer to a Aussie prison to serve the rest of you term.

moaningmags · 11-10-2010, 23:07

A driving license is not required to have an MOT done on a car.
A UK driving license does not get renewed every 5years.
In short you're talking mince.

warrigal · 11-10-2010, 23:09

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Originally Posted by Russ

A figment of your imagination. Nothing more.

OH I contacted this guy alright, and he was going to do a under the Counter Provisional and Full Driving licence.

Maybe he is still there maybe he s gone from the DVLA now,
If he s gone is there will always be someone else taking his place, and the European an chinese fake Sites continue scaming people, and the UK dosn't stop it.

Russ · 11-10-2010, 23:11

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Originally Posted by warrigal

OH I contacted this guy alright, and he was going to do a under the Counter Provisional and Full Driving licence.

Maybe he is still there maybe he s gone from the DVLA now,
If he s gone is there will always be someone else taking his place, and the European an chinese fake Sites continue scaming people, and the UK dosn't stop it.

No. It won't happen. I've worked at the DVLA, I'm aware of the full range of security checks that go on. Even if "he" is real, his claims are not.

warrigal · 11-10-2010, 23:38

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Originally Posted by Hom3r

Well when you get stopped, and the police find your DL is dodgy you will got to jail and be unlikely to get bail as you would be deemed a 'flight risk'.

When you are found guilty you will go to a british prision, you may get lucky and get a transfer to a Aussie prison to serve the rest of you term.

But the point is the Eastern European Licence from Germany or Hungary or Creaq Rep is Legal (It is Legal in the UK to Drive with one in the UK)

Movelicence.com do a search on that
FulldrivingLicence.com

UKID for a fakes

The under the counter UK licence is legal because it is isuued by the DVLA

So what would UK law enforcement rather do , Go after Dodgee or Non UK licenced drivers For Unlicenced driving. and Get Convictions.

Where what they should do is shut down the Overseas Website selling Fakes, and go after the people in the UK doing this, then there won't be a problem of unlicenced driving.

Just the ones that chose to do because they don't bother tp try to get a licence.

Me I have a Driver Licence from my country that isn't accepted by the DVLA, I have had much Discusion with the DVLA UK On this. Problem still not resolved.

12-10-2010, 00:11

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Originally Posted by warrigal

But the point is the Eastern European Licence from Germany or Hungary or Creaq Rep is Legal (It is Legal in the UK to Drive with one in the UK)

Movelicence.com do a search on that
FulldrivingLicence.com

UKID for a fakes

The under the counter UK licence is legal because it is isuued by the DVLA

So what would UK law enforcement rather do , Go after Dodgee or Non UK licenced drivers For Unlicenced driving. and Get Convictions.

Where what they should do is shut down the Overseas Website selling Fakes, and go after the people in the UK doing this, then there won't be a problem of unlicenced driving.

Just the ones that chose to do because they don't bother tp try to get a licence.

Me I have a Driver Licence from my country that isn't accepted by the DVLA, I have had much Discusion with the DVLA UK On this. Problem still not resolved.

While I would support the negative vibes you may have noticed regarding obtaining an 'illegal' licence, I do share your concern that your legitimate antipodean licence isn't recognised in the UK....

Derek · 12-10-2010, 00:14

What would UK law enforcement do. Deal with a problem in the UK or one in another country... Tough one that. Believe me if you drive with a fake license and get stopped by the police you are entering a world of trouble.

The under the counter one isn't legal either.

The only legal ones are ones issued by the DVLA after the relevant tests are passed.

Your arguments about it being OK as it's allowed in other countries don't hold up much either. If I wandered about the town centre with a bunch of guns saying it's allowed in America wouldn't get me anywhere.

Wayfair · 12-10-2010, 07:55

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Originally Posted by moaningmags

A driving license is not required to have an MOT done on a car.
A UK driving license does not get renewed every 5years.
In short you're talking mince.

Unsure on what kind of license his mate has Mags 'as he is talking about all kinds of things' but if you're over the age of 40 and hold a Class C you do have to get it renewed every 5 yrs, every yr over the age of 65, this does require a Dr's medical certificate though, there is no fee except the one the Dr charges though.

Osem · 12-10-2010, 10:17

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Originally Posted by warrigal

If you stop it happening as residents of the EU, well then you are all part of it happening

I can't get a legal one on exchange because I am not a resident, (185 day residency rule, that there to stop europeans loseing there licence in one country and going to another and get, passing a test in another)

Why is my current licence not recognized in the UK, a UK licence is recognized in Australia, you don't have to be retested.

I personally no a man a former citizen of the uk (well still a citizen, he still has a UK passport) he is now a perment resident in Australia (my state) (we works in Australia etc pay tax), he has a state driving licence, he didn't have to surrender his UK Licence, In fact he still renews his UK licence every 5 years or so via mail order, Internet, and credit transaction, and he dosn't even live in the UK.

So what? Maybe you lot should toughen up things over there to deal with people like him. The system here may be unfair to people like you or even stupid but simply breaking laws that don't suit you really isn't the best way to go about your business.

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Originally Posted by Derek

If I wandered about the town centre with a bunch of guns saying it's allowed in America wouldn't get me anywhere.

....well it might get you to the morgue a tad earlier than expected...

Derek · 12-10-2010, 10:30

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Originally Posted by Osem

....well it might get you to the morgue a tad earlier than expected...

But then at least the Daily Mail would be able to run stories saying people firing guns randomly into the street aren't a threat to anyone...

warrigal · 13-10-2010, 06:40

Cable Forum Admin You forgot to close this now

to answer Wayfairs comment yes I can come to the UK and drive a Car ( vehicle up 3500 KG) as a visitor or as a resident with my native countrys licence.

What I can't do is come to the UK as Visitor or Resident and drive a C1 class vehicle (a vehicle 3500Kg to 7500 Kg) or a C class lorry (a vehicle over 7500 Kg) that is only reserved for UK licence holders or European union licence holders, Would be alright if I had a USA (state licence) their C class a car includes anything including trucks, and large RVs up to 10000KG. Their Comercial vehicle licences only start at 10000 KG