Xbox 360 Elite: HDMI-enabled black unit with 120GB HDD in late April - Page 4

gazzae · 27-03-2007, 12:41

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Originally Posted by Tod

The HD-DVD drive is going to be imperative to future game releases on 360!

Link?

I found this that suggests otherwise..

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The Gamerscore blog, an official Microsoft news organ, lays to rest the rumours that the HD-DVD drive might be required to play future 360 games. According to them the new HD drive is solely intended to play movies, and will not be used to accesss game content. From the article:

"Since announcing the Xbox 360 HD DVD Player accessory at E3 2006, we've been clear that it is designed exclusively for playing HD DVD movies. It will not play games on HD DVD. At this point, we haven't seen anything to suggest that next-gen DVD formats offer a better game experience than current DVD

http://games.slashdot.org/article.pl.../08/17/1835204

Logan · 27-03-2007, 12:46

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Originally Posted by gazzae

Link?

I found this that suggests otherwise..

That's not to suggest it couldn't happen though.

And lets be honest, wouldn't be the first time Microsoft has back tracked on its word, "we have no plans for an upgraded Xbox 360 with HDMI..."...

Tezcatlipoca · 27-03-2007, 13:44

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Originally Posted by Tod

The HD-DVD drive is going to be imperative to future game releases on 360!

No chance.

The space is unneccessary.

The read speed is too slow.

Not every 360 owner has one.

MS wouldn't be stupid enough to do a repeat of SEGA's "MegaCD" mistake.

MS have categorically said it's only for movies.

HDMI... still not confirmed, & I don't think MS ever fully denied it before IIRC, they just said they wouldn't comment on speculation. And they had previously said they'd sort out HDMI connection for the 360 "when the need/demand was there".

27-03-2007, 18:15

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Originally Posted by Tod

The HD-DVD drive is going to be imperative to future game releases on 360!

PS3 games... are they on Blu'Ray discs or normal dvd's..

Nikesh · 27-03-2007, 18:16

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Originally Posted by Slyder

PS3 games... are they on Blu'Ray discs or normal dvd's..

Blu-Ray I think...?

awibble · 27-03-2007, 18:27

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Originally Posted by Matt D

MS wouldn't be stupid enough to do a repeat of SEGA's "MegaCD" mistake.

Windows ME?
MS Bob?

Don't forget this is MS we are talking about.... Anything is possiable!

SnoopZ · 27-03-2007, 18:27

Yes blu-Ray.

27-03-2007, 20:50

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Originally Posted by Nikesh

Blu-Ray I think...?

But that means these ps3 games are nearly 30gig in size.. that cant be right. The 360 pulls of a smoother version of CoD3 for example. While the technology is there for developers to use Blu-Ray or HD discs to make games on, I dont think no one is really considering this yet.

Nikesh · 27-03-2007, 21:07

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Originally Posted by Slyder

But that means these ps3 games are nearly 30gig in size.. that cant be right. The 360 pulls of a smoother version of CoD3 for example. While the technology is there for developers to use Blu-Ray or HD discs to make games on, I dont think no one is really considering this yet.

To be honest, I'm not really sure... I just thought seeing as the PS3 is the most powerful games console to date, including having a Blu-Ray drive, game manufacturers would make use of this technology...?

SnoopZ · 27-03-2007, 21:09

The PS3 games are padded out with rubbish data on the disk so the games load quicker.

Alanmelon · 27-03-2007, 21:10

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Originally Posted by Slyder

But that means these ps3 games are nearly 30gig in size.. that cant be right. The 360 pulls of a smoother version of CoD3 for example. While the technology is there for developers to use Blu-Ray or HD discs to make games on, I don't think no one is really considering this yet.

I agree. The majority of games now are cross platform, so why would a developer go to the extra effort of making a bigger version specifically for Blu-Ray/PS3? It's not like they can get away with charging any more for a bigger game and the longer development it would require - they'd still have sell it at the going rate, so what's the incentive to put in the extra work?

Tezcatlipoca · 27-03-2007, 22:16

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Originally Posted by awibble

Windows ME?
MS Bob?

Don't forget this is MS we are talking about.... Anything is possiable!

True, they do have a habit of being muppets, sometimes.

I think the lack of a HDD as standard for the 360 was an insanely stupid decision, for instance. The "Core" 360 is a waste of space.

[As for WinMe... that's best not mentioned ever again

]

But I don't think they'd be so stupid as to allow games to use HD DVD, not when only a small proportion of owners have the drive.

Developers wouldn't bother making use of it if hardly anyone could then play their games.

Besides, HD DVD has not won the HD format war (neither side has, although Blu-ray is in the lead at the moment), so to rest everything on it would be very foolish. MS have even said they wouldn't rule out releasing a Blu-ray add-on for the 360, if that ends up winning.

awibble · 28-03-2007, 07:59

Looking at the pricing, i think they have made a bad move with the Elite... Its still going to be missing the HDdrive (they would of said Playback only) and its going to be ÃƒÆ’Ã¢â‚¬Å¡Ãƒâ€šÃ‚Â£350 when you add on the HD-drive at ÃƒÆ’Ã¢â‚¬Å¡Ãƒâ€šÃ‚Â£130 its still pretty close to the PS3 price.

When you consider that MS should of made their money back on development, they should be taking the oppertunity to squash the 360. If they could bring it out for ÃƒÆ’Ã¢â‚¬Å¡Ãƒâ€šÃ‚Â£300, or maybe even do a HDdrive bundle for ÃƒÆ’Ã¢â‚¬Å¡Ãƒâ€šÃ‚Â£350 they could stamp it out, and they could help to win the format war at the same time.

The longer they let all the PS3's play blu-ray without competeing the more people are going to pickup a blu-ray disk when they see them. Doesnt matter if you baught it for the play back or not, if you have a HDTV, and a PS3 your gonna be tempted.

MS have definately made the right move, including many of the extras that the PS3 has over them, but i think they should of pushed the price lower, as that would cause real problems for sony, and we all like to see a good fight.at the moment the consoles are split, there a budget console (Wii), the standard console (360 with no extras) and the Pro (PS3). Theres gonna be a new pro with the elite, but its still not going to match the PS3, which it should do.

**Damien** · 28-03-2007, 08:28

No one will really want to buy all blu-ray yet. The risk of building up a collection in a format that might not exist is not worth it over DVD. Microsoft has a advantage over sony anyway with the amount of games and units sold so I dont think they worried about matching the PS3, rather continuing to lead.

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Oh btw, the Elite is real

http://www.xbox360fanboy.com/2007/03...and-120gb-hdd/

Stephen · 28-03-2007, 08:30

Well its now official.

http://www.xbox.com/en-US/hardware/x...te/default.htm

So is the bigger hard drive to buy seperately

http://www.xbox.com/en-US/hardware/x...GB/default.htm