Guilty x3

[Escapee]

Originally Posted by TheDaddy

They are paying for it
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/south_asia/6132582.stm

We musn't judge by our own standards though, life is cheap in many of these countries.

The Pakistani government have probably taken a calculated gamble assisting the west, they are gaining technology for free. I am however sure they are also keen to finally have an excuse to deal with these terrorists that they turned a blind eye to for so long.

Originally Posted by Escapee

We musn't judge by our own standards though, life is cheap in many of these countries. There are so many assumptions in that statement I won't even bother to counter-argue with - life is too short!

The Pakistani government have probably taken a calculated gamble assisting the west, they are gaining technology for free. I am however sure they are also keen to finally have an excuse to deal with these terrorists that they turned a blind eye to for so long.

I noted in your earlier post you stated "My comments stem from the number of terrorists in Pakistan, the number of would be/dead and captured terrorists with links to Pakistan, the Pakistani governments feeble attempts to put a stop to them, and of course not to mention (I know its not allowed) my personal experiences."

I think we would all be interested in your personal experiences with terrorists and the Pakistan government - please enlighten us.

[hatedbythemail]

alternatively you could explain precisely wot pakistani terrorism has to do with this case?

[Escapee]

Originally Posted by foreverwar

I noted in your earlier post you stated "My comments stem from the number of terrorists in Pakistan, the number of would be/dead and captured terrorists with links to Pakistan, the Pakistani governments feeble attempts to put a stop to them, and of course not to mention (I know its not allowed) my personal experiences."

I think we would all be interested in your personal experiences with terrorists and the Pakistan government - please enlighten us.

My personal experience of the pakistani's that I have come into contact with, have nothing to do with them being terrorists but everything to do with them segregating themsleves. My limited experiences of Pakistan government agencies are obviously not up for discussion.

You cannot stop people having their own opinion, and you cannot expect people to ignore their own experiences. If someone based an opinion on meeting one person from country x that would be silly, but while I have no problem per se with someone in the category of Muslim or the category of Asian, I do not include the pakistani's that I have met in that group, and I certainly dont understand why they dislike the UK and the west in general.

A lot of hatred stems from Pakistan, that will always be my opinion until we see an end to the terrorist links with that country and their attitude towards us.

"Life is cheap" means these countries are used to people being killed, that's not trivialising it on my part but it gets to a point where is becomes a little more acceptable.

[hatedbythemail]

i cant see how any of this has ramble has anything to do with this case and the suggestion that the evil demonstrated "came from Pakistan" is baseless, pathetic and sadly both revealing and predictable.

[Saaf_laandon_mo]

Originally Posted by Escapee

You cannot stop people having their own opinion, and you cannot expect people to ignore their own experiences. If someone based an opinion on meeting one person from country x that would be silly, but while I have no problem per se with someone in the category of Muslim or the category of Asian, I do not include the pakistani's that I have met in that group, and I certainly dont understand why they dislike the UK and the west in general.

So you're saying that while asians and muslims are ok, pakistanis that you have met (in UK I assume) dislike the UK and the West in general, using that to base your assumtion on an entire race/country.

How do you tell the different between a Pakistani asian and a non pakistani asian in the streets of the UK. Do all the Pakistanis wear a "I hate The West" teeshirt? I was just wondering because i see a lot of Pakistanis contributing a lot to the UK and integrating across all walks of life.

I think your argument is pathetic mate.

[hatedbythemail]

astonishing how bad escapees experiences with pakistanis (oh and east europeans....) are compared to mine - well to me at least.. astonishing too how his argument fails to acknowledge the help given to the police by all communities in bringing this trio to justice, including that of the local mp who is of course of pakistani descent. still lets not let the facts get in the way of a good and deeply rooted prejudice eh?

[ikthius]

Personally i hope these 3 get exactly what they done to the 15 yr old.
stabbed repeatedly for 4 hours, petrol poured over them, then set alight, in jail.

sorry, but this crime was horrific and to lie and leave the country to get away with it is absurd.

mind you, being the used rent boys in jail would be funnier to.

ik

p.s. they probably have satelite tv and all the sports and movies they want in jail

[Escapee]

Originally Posted by Saaf_laandon_mo

So you're saying that while asians and muslims are ok, pakistanis that you have met (in UK I assume) dislike the UK and the West in general, using that to base your assumtion on an entire race/country.

How do you tell the different between a Pakistani asian and a non pakistani asian in the streets of the UK. Do all the Pakistanis wear a "I hate The West" teeshirt? I was just wondering because i see a lot of Pakistanis contributing a lot to the UK and integrating across all walks of life.

I think your argument is pathetic mate.

I have no idea how to tell the difference between a Pakistani asian or a non-oakistani asian in the street of the UK, I have never claimed to be able to do so.

I can only base my opinion after working with a fair number of Pakistani contractors and Indian ciontractors in my last job, I also worked with a small number of permanent employees from these countries.

The Indians I worked with were very friendly and very helpful and were part of the team, whilst the pakistanis were very secretive and would not work as the team. They would without fail go off sick if there was any physical work to be done, would not pass on any knowledge and would never go looking for work when they had finished their allocated work. And under no circumstances would they work overtime, one would only work 30 hours a week for "religious reasons" That's why I believe religion should be banned as an excuse in the workplace, there is always someone who will use it to their advantage.

I have worked with people from many different countries, but the pakistanis who happened to follow Islam were the only ones I failed to get on with. There was just no way any of us could strike up a conversation with them, lunchtime they would dissapear as if it was a way to get away from us.

And no, none of us originally treated them any differently to the rest of the team, they made themselves different. (That I believe is the big problem)

[Derek]

Bit of a mega bump but

A man who led a gang in the racist murder of a Glasgow schoolboy had his human rights violated by being kept in solitary confinement, the UK's Supreme Court has ruled.
The court said that he had been unlawfully kept in solitary confinement for a total of 14 months.
It ruled that this had violated the European Convention on Human Rights.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotlan...-west-34527215

Putting him back in the general prison population would sort out his moaning fairly quickly.

[Sirius]

Originally Posted by Derek

Bit of a mega bump but



http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotlan...-west-34527215

Putting him back in the general prison population would sort out his moaning fairly quickly.

They will be queuing outside the shower waiting for him

[heero_yuy]

Originally Posted by Sirius

They will be queuing outside the shower waiting for him

All that soap on the floor.