22-09-2003, 14:08
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Originally posted by Dave Stones
(after all who hasnt dabbled with pencil lead and sulphur in chemistry class? 
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aluminium foil and caustic soda solution is more fun - and you don't have to be in school lab to get hold of the ingredients. Any chemists want to guess what you can do with it? 
On a more serious note, a private member's bill passed this year giving the Government a lot more power to require licencing of larger fireworks displays, tighter licencing of those selling them and tighter controls over who can buy them outside of a fairly narrow period of time either side of November 5.
As is often the case in life, the vast majority of people are sensible and an outright ban would be a clumsy and unfair way of dealing with a problem caused by a small minority (most of whom are underage and shouldn't have them anyway - go figure!)
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22-09-2003, 15:03
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Originally posted by towny
aluminium foil and caustic soda solution is more fun - and you don't have to be in school lab to get hold of the ingredients. Any chemists want to guess what you can do with it?
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pfft thats boring.. and you need a small quantity of water as well... water doesnt grow on trees you know
rubber cement does wonders for anything involving fire, but that is for another topic..
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22-09-2003, 15:09
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Originally posted by Dave Stones
pfft thats boring
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You wouldn't say that if you'd seen what we used to do with it...
/clue
involved a bin liner and a strip of newspaper soaked in saltpetre solution
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22-09-2003, 15:11
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By all means let everyone celebrate Guy Fawkes night.I've no objection as I would hate to see one of our historic celebrations die.
I do however think that children under the age of 18 should not be able to buy fireworks.That anyone who wants to have fireworks should have to obtain a licence only for the week that Nov 5th falls in and that anyone who lets off fireworks outside this week or without said licence should face prosecution.
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22-09-2003, 15:11
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Originally posted by towny
You wouldn't say that if you'd seen what we used to do with it...
/clue
involved a bin liner and a strip of newspaper soaked in saltpetre solution
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you didnt give me no clues before! all you said was get aluminium and caustic! if you add other ingredients you can do about a zillion things with it...
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22-09-2003, 15:13
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hmmm
Diesel, sugar and fertiliser wrapped up in newspaper.
Wasnt that one of the major ones from years back?
wont go into details, sure its illegal lol
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22-09-2003, 15:15
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Originally posted by Dave Stones
you didnt give me no clues before! all you said was get aluminium and caustic! if you add other ingredients you can do about a zillion things with it...
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Well ok, how about this ... what kind of bang do you think you might get if you ignited a bag containing about a cubic metre of pure hydrogen ... ?
EDIT: And how much louder would it be if your cubic metre of gas was 2/3 hydrogen and 1/3 oxygen?
I'll leave you to work out your own recipe for oxygen, don't want to be encouraging illegal activity....
DON'T TRY THIS AT HOME KIDS!
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22-09-2003, 15:27
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Originally posted by Bifta
Yeah cos putting an effigy of Guy Fawkes on a big f*cking bonfire is really a true celebration of his life ....
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Sorry, but I don't recall mentioning a guy at any point, nor did I spot this thread being about guys, mabe I got confused somewhere  :p
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22-09-2003, 15:29
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Originally posted by timewarrior2001
hmmm
Diesel, sugar and fertiliser wrapped up in newspaper.
Wasnt that one of the major ones from years back?
wont go into details, sure its illegal lol
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im sure thats what terrorists use... 
say... you're not a terrorist are you? :p
one thing i would advise people to stay away from if they dont like fireworks is the cherry bomb. ive seen a tennis-ball version of one of them and its bloody insane...
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22-09-2003, 15:41
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Yeah cos putting an effigy of Guy Fawkes on a big f*cking bonfire is really a true celebration of his life ....
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It isn't a 'celebration of his life' - there is little to celebrate about his life. He was a small-time crook who was stupid enough to get caught in the act. He wasn't even one of the principal conspirators.
What we celebrate on 5 November is the failure of a bunch of terrorists to assassinate our Government in an attempt to install a Catholic dictatorship in England. That is something worth celebrating IMO, although personally I prefer to celebrate the failure of the plot without celebrating the grisly torture and execution of Guido Fawkes - we don't burn a Guy in our back garden.
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22-09-2003, 16:03
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Fireworks now seem to be a year round event. Specialist shops exist so you can have fireworks at whatever "celebration" you like, whenever it might be. For those of a nervous disposition, that you dont know when the next local bombardment will start up (it can be a big problem for humans let alone pets), that can be a nightmare. Maybe a decibel limit might be the way forward for those wanting to celibrate outside of bonfire night (and that''s the problem cos it's now effectively become bonfire fortnight around my area).
I'm not a killjoy, and do believe that sensibly done, fireworks can be great fun. My own party last year must have seen over £700 worth go up in smoke. I live 1/4 mile from my local Tescos, and people there tell me they had a good time watching mine (well I did advertise it to my friends as a "there goes the neighbourhood" do! 
On a note of caution, one should take the distance warnings quite seriously. One of the bigger things I had, misfired and literally blew up, covering everybody attending with sand, shaking the fence, and almost blowing the neighbours patio door out (garden was 14m long, not 25m as required!). Not a trace of the thing was found, and my ears rang for days! 
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22-09-2003, 16:03
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Originally posted by Dave Stones
but what *real* damage do they cause to anyone, apart form 2 or maybe 3 nights with less sleep than usual?
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You obviously do not have them going off all night for several months before & after the occasion thet they were meant for as much as the rest of us.
Either that or you cannot count!
Has someone dragged out last years poll results?
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22-09-2003, 16:46
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Originally posted by Dave Stones
im sure thats what terrorists use...
say... you're not a terrorist are you? :p
one thing i would advise people to stay away from if they dont like fireworks is the cherry bomb. ive seen a tennis-ball version of one of them and its bloody insane...
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Not quite, you forgot benzene.
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22-09-2003, 16:50
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Originally posted by towny
It isn't a 'celebration of his life' - there is little to celebrate about his life. He was a small-time crook who was stupid enough to get caught in the act. He wasn't even one of the principal conspirators.
What we celebrate on 5 November is the failure of a bunch of terrorists to assassinate our Government in an attempt to install a Catholic dictatorship in England. That is something worth celebrating IMO, although personally I prefer to celebrate the failure of the plot without celebrating the grisly torture and execution of Guido Fawkes - we don't burn a Guy in our back garden.
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I never said it was, you must have missed the obvious sarcasm (which was in response to someone's earlier thread about "celebrating his life")
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22-09-2003, 16:55
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Originally posted by Bifta
I never said it was, you must have missed the obvious sarcasm (which was in response to someone's earlier thread about "celebrating his life")
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d'oh! 
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