I now like Firefox! - Page 4

**Maggy** · 06-01-2005, 13:09

gulp! I hate coding,it's like learning a new language and I had enough trouble learning French years ago.

What I want to know is why it shows in Firefox but not in IE?

Toto · 06-01-2005, 13:10

Well, I use Firefox, and the reason is that most Internet security experts say it is far more secure.

It is also less bulky in terms of system use, uses tabbed windows instead of having to open multiple IE sessions, and comes with a raft of usefull extensions.

I've not found a site yet that does not render well in Firefox, and I have converted all my non technical friends and family to this excellent browser. My technical friends already use it, and will continue to do so for a long time to come. Many of them have come over from Mozilla to Firefox, and are extremely pleased with the transition.

From the security aspect alone, Firefox has to be the browser of choice if you use a Windows O/S.

Richard M · 06-01-2005, 13:10

What's the URL?

Bifta · 06-01-2005, 13:22

First and second images are from firefox
Third and fourth are from IE

The first firefox one doesn't look to healthy, perhaps your web editor is causing a few of the problems.

**Chris** · 06-01-2005, 14:25

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Originally Posted by Incognitas

gulp! I hate coding,it's like learning a new language and I had enough trouble learning French years ago.

What I want to know is why it shows in Firefox but not in IE?

I didn't know any HTML before I began my current job. Now, although all my web and intranet publishing is done through a wysiwyg editor, I have picked up enough to be able to see what code is being used to achieve the effects I want - and where our intranet editor, which is a bit basic in some respects, gets it wrong or simply won't do what I want, I can usuallly tweak the code myself. I've managed to achieve this simply by looking at the HTML view of what I'm doing from time to time and getting a feel of it. I'll never be really proficient (and I know nothing at all of other languages), but nevertheless it has been worthwhile if only to dispel my phobia of computer programming languages.

Paul K · 06-01-2005, 14:48

What software are you using to put your site together Incog? Certain tools that shall remain nameless have a habit of making a mess of the html and you end up having to go through it all by hand to pull out the rubbish.
(I still have to tweak Chim's site because I failled to tell it to use a coloured background when showing the pics

When I get time

)

Stuart · 06-01-2005, 15:33

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Originally Posted by Chris T

I didn't know any HTML before I began my current job. Now, although all my web and intranet publishing is done through a wysiwyg editor, I have picked up enough to be able to see what code is being used to achieve the effects I want - and where our intranet editor, which is a bit basic in some respects, gets it wrong or simply won't do what I want, I can usuallly tweak the code myself. I've managed to achieve this simply by looking at the HTML view of what I'm doing from time to time and getting a feel of it. I'll never be really proficient (and I know nothing at all of other languages), but nevertheless it has been worthwhile if only to dispel my phobia of computer programming languages.

Well done!.

Incog, if you do learn HTML at first it will seem a bit difficult, and wierd (actually it is wierd), but once you have built a simple website, and looked at the code, it does start to make sense.. Bear in mind that HTML (and the World Wide Web) was originally designed to enable scientists who may or may not be computer literate to exchange information.

The only thing that might confuse you is if you look at sites generated by tools (such as Dreamweaver and particularly Frontpage) as these tend to bung in lots of messy and difficult to understand code, whose only function seems to be to slow download speeds.

Paul K · 06-01-2005, 15:36

Frontpage is terrible for it

Dreamweaver is a bit better but most WYSIWYG editors have a habit of adding lines of junk in

Bifta · 06-01-2005, 15:39

Dreamweaver doesn't produce messy code, older version of Frontpage (98 mainly) used to but apart from the horrific abortions that are webbots the code it produces is just as clean as DW.

Stuart · 06-01-2005, 16:09

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Originally Posted by Bifta

Dreamweaver doesn't produce messy code, older version of Frontpage (98 mainly) used to but apart from the horrific abortions that are webbots the code it produces is just as clean as DW.

I am not saying Dreamweaver (or Frontpage) are bad tools. Far from it. I actually use Dreamweaver to maintain my own site, but tend to use the WYSIWYG elements while laying out the page, and then bung my own code in where appropriate.

It's just that as soon as you start using the more advanced WYSIWYG features of Dreamweaver, it has a tendancy to bung Javascript, JScript or VB Script at the top. This is obviously there to perform whatever function the user selected, but it can make what is happening harder to understand for the newbie (or for seasoned hacks).

Richard M · 08-01-2005, 02:04

IE vs Firefox stats for CF, 1st-7th Jan 2005:

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Browser                 Hits      %
MS Internet Explorer    938227    75.6 %
Firefox                 216058    17.4 %

Bifta · 08-01-2005, 02:10

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Originally Posted by Richard M

IE vs Firefox stats for CF, 1st-7th Jan 2005:

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Browser                 Hits      %
MS Internet Explorer    938227    75.6 %
Firefox                 216058    17.4 %

Not exactly an accurate representation of the global usage of Firefox considering it's wh0red at every single opportunity on here.

Richard M · 08-01-2005, 02:34

Not really, it was just a FYI.

08-01-2005, 08:48

Well you won't get me using FireFox. Tried it, hated it.

MadGamer · 08-01-2005, 13:20

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Originally Posted by Scott

Well you won't get me using FireFox. Tried it, hated it.

Thats just your opinion, i think its a great browser when the right tools are added and tweaks.