BT Lowers BB Prices.

[dilli-theclaw]

Originally Posted by cichlid

Well if anyone thinks my posts read stroppy thats fine - they're not intended to be. The problem with text is it's very difficult to convey tone of voice. You've all misread my tone. Thanks.

Then USE THE SMEGGING SMILEYS - they will help you to put 'emotion' into your posts

[SOSAGES]

bound to happen eventually such is life need to stop using old wires invest in some smart technology connect to the internet mk2 and never complain again... - give it a few years

[cichlid]

"USE SMEGGING SMILEYS"
I believe that's the emotion of shouting. Thanks again. I won't be coming back here considering some of the comments have come from NTL employees.

[dilli-theclaw]

Originally Posted by cichlid

"USE SMEGGING SMILEYS"
I believe that's the emotion of shouting. Thanks again. I won't be coming back here considering some of the comments have come from NTL employees.

So it is - and a means it was ment to be a humerous nudge in the right direction.

Ah well - they do say you can take an animal to water but can't get them to drink

Oh - and I'm not an NTL employee - but I've had my fare share of problems with NTL - so bad in fact I told them to stuff it in the end.

But - I've learnt the people here are most helpful IF YOU GIVE THEM THE CHANCE....

What you seem unable to grasp is that there is a difference between the company and the people within it.

Stay or go - it's up to you.

Just try to chill - and not get so wound up.

[BlueMeany]

Originally Posted by monkeybreath

You could try DUmeter it is only a 30 day trial, but it should give you an indication.

If you have a home network you will be better off using MRTG

Thanks, I think thats just what I'm looking for.

Originally Posted by Neil

ntl on the other hand, chose to slip theirs into their AUP late on a Friday night hoping that no one would notice (I should know-it was us that broke the story)

It comes down to honesty & professionalism, & ntl lacked both when it came to amending their AUP regarding the cap IMO.

I'm not fussed about the cap... especially if it is as has been reported not strictly 1gb a day (ie something about not on 3 consecutive days or such like)

I've never been told anything about the cap *officially*

[Feenix]

by the way - don't you need a BT home telephone line for their broadband?
and what is the line rental on that?

And regarding the cap - it's in the terms and conditions/AUP - I seem to remeber clicking the "I Agree to the T&C" button when I signed up..

Originally Posted by cichlid

"USE SMEGGING SMILEYS"
I believe that's the emotion of shouting. Thanks again. I won't be coming back here considering some of the comments have come from NTL employees.

Bye then.


To go back to something mentioned earlier.

NTL's 256k and 600k services are apparently set at 256000 bits and 600000 bits download - however, for some reason the 1m service is set at 1024000 and not 1000000 (the uploads are 128000 or 256000). Confusing to say the least.

I'm expecting the 1.5m to be set to 1536000. The others will probably be 300000 & 750000, but we can always hope for 320000 & 768000

[scrotnig]

Originally Posted by Neil

Hi Mark

I am guessing that I am one of the people you are referring to (not a problem)

The difference between BT's cap & ntl's is that BT haven't tried to hide the fact. It is clearly advertised & mentioned.

ntl on the other hand, chose to slip theirs into their AUP late on a Friday night hoping that no one would notice (I should know-it was us that broke the story)

It comes down to honesty & professionalism, & ntl lacked both when it came to amending their AUP regarding the cap IMO.

As ever-that is not a reflection on any associates that post here, just the people at the top who make the buffoon decisions & make your jobs harder.

I think to be fair to Neil, his problem seems to be not so much with the cap itself but the way it was handled at the time. And I'm not going to argue with him on that point.

My question is aimed at those people who bang on and on about how bad actually having the cap is...which is fair enough and a legitimate opinion...but who seem to be remarkably silent now that similar caps are being introduced by ntl's competitors.

I don't personally like caps, but ntl's and BT's don't seem unduly restrictive, though I do wonder about how strictly BT intend to enforce theirs next year.

[Stop It]

Well , BT moves just As I thought, lowering price, adding a cap to all services, Its only a matter of time before pretty much all mainstream priced ADSL becomes capped, Im not against capping, as part of a well priced package, £30.00 for ADSL with a 30GB cap sounds decent to me, £38, doesn't, If it wasnt for the fact that Im in a non BT area, I would have left NTL and got a BT based provider (although not BT retail :P).

I would much rather NTL ditch this speed upgrade and slash prices, then they would have a decent, and improving service at prices that people will take notice of.

[orangebird]

Originally Posted by Stop It

Well , BT moves just As I thought, lowering price, adding a cap to all services, Its only a matter of time before pretty much all mainstream priced ADSL becomes capped, Im not against capping, as part of a well priced package, £30.00 for ADSL with a 30GB cap sounds decent to me, £38, doesn't, If it wasnt for the fact that Im in a non BT area, I would have left NTL and got a BT based provider (although not BT retail :P).

I would much rather NTL ditch this speed upgrade and slash prices, then they would have a decent, and improving service at prices that people will take notice of.

*sigh* NTL DON'T HAVE A 30GB CAP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[themelon]

Originally Posted by Neil

Hi Mark

I am guessing that I am one of the people you are referring to (not a problem)

The difference between BT's cap & ntl's is that BT haven't tried to hide the fact. It is clearly advertised & mentioned.

ntl on the other hand, chose to slip theirs into their AUP late on a Friday night hoping that no one would notice (I should know-it was us that broke the story)

It comes down to honesty & professionalism, & ntl lacked both when it came to amending their AUP regarding the cap IMO.

As ever-that is not a reflection on any associates that post here, just the people at the top who make the buffoon decisions & make your jobs harder.

In fairness ntls cap has never been strictly enforced, I have downloaded more than 1Gb in a day on many occassions and havent heard a thing. BT on the other hand have always been the strictest of strict when it comes to the Internet.........back in the days of dial up I was on an allegedly unlimited service called 'Surfworld' I was connected on and off with the normal dial up disconnects every 2 hours for 24hours as it happens at the time I was doing quite and important project.........I recieve a letter from BT the following week stating my account would be terminated if a do it again. I think its different when something is strictly enforced with possible charges you need to be told, something unlikely to affect you unless yu download a hell of a lot doesnt matter. I think new ntl customers would be told about the cap....when I signed up it was unlimited, I still use it the same and havent recieved a letter.

I hear with BT any excess in Bandwidth will be charged something like the following 1Gb for £4, 3Gb for £8 and 6Gb a month will be £12. Or you can suffer a reduced service until the end of the month.

On ntl if the cap is broken the worse that will happen is you get a letter and possibly cut off (although I dont know of any cases) and not speed limiting. Im not sure if BT intend to offer customers a method of measuring how much they have downloaded either like ntl?

I think the introduction of Bandwidth charges and Speed throttling is a terribly bad thing for Broadband in the UK before its even got off the ground.

[Stop It]

Originally Posted by orangebird

*sigh* NTL DON'T HAVE A 30GB CAP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Note how people love pointing that out, but not actually answering my comment, yes ntls cap isnt technically 30GB, its 1GB a day, but not, but still, its very overpriced in comparison with BT, and as this site says, NTL are reviewing thier 1MB prices, shame ntl are no longer price setters, but followers