TiVo - Page 395

Peter_ · 01-04-2011, 17:54

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Originally Posted by passingbat

Well, it's about time there was. The CEO office are refering to it as an option for those not prepared to pay the 1TB price. If the CEO office is talking about it, surely functionality specs should be made available, otherwise, how can pepole make a valid choice now.

Not really as they are just concentrating on the present box that is soon to become available to all any other boxes for the moment are secondary.

Stephen · 01-04-2011, 17:56

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Originally Posted by passingbat

Well, it's about time there was. The CEO office are refering to it as an option for those not prepared to pay the 1TB price. If the CEO office is talking about it, surely functionality specs should be made available, otherwise, how can pepole make a valid choice now.

Well perhaps it will get announced after TiVo officially launches in the next couple of weeks, after all the new Electric magazine does hint at a lower capacity HDD TiVo being made available at sometime.

But the 1TB is the flagship TiVo product and as such will have a higher cost to have it.

passingbat · 01-04-2011, 18:00

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Originally Posted by Masque

Not really as they are just concentrating on the present box that is soon to become available to all any other boxes for the moment are secondary.

They need to learn to multi-task then. If a box is due for release in June, are you trying to tel me that they don't know the specifications?

Sorry, but that sounds like a very poor excuse to me. They must know the specs, but for some reason, they are not releasing them, depriving people of making an educated choice as to which is the best box for them; the 1TB or the 500(?)gb one.

howardmicks · 01-04-2011, 18:00

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Originally Posted by ntl.wotcha

Beg to differ, I have had issues, particularly US shows which do not show UK premier air dates.

Prime example, Spartacus: Gods of the Area, Mon 4th April will be a UK premier but it's shown with the US air date of 21 Feb and is seen by the box as a repeat. I already reported this one here... still not fixed.

One of the selling points for TiVo is that it can make suggestions on new shows that may interest you, but if the new shows are not correctly flagged then how can that function work properly ? I actually missed the first ep of Spartacus and only found it browsing the Guide.

While I'm at it, I'm still not sold on the whole concept of thumbs up/thumbs down. Yes it theory it sounds great. Thumb up the stuff you like and thumb down the stuff you don't and then in theory it should automatically record stuff you like. The problem is, let's say I like stuff like Quantum leap, so should I thumb up it ? Well if I do then I will get several hundred repeats (as I have watched every episode already) but then if I thumb down it, or don't thumb it, how will it ever learn what I like ?

Additionally I hate coming into a show half way through a season. So what I really want it to do is automatically record *anything* that is S1Ep1, regardless of my likes/dislikes.

Don't get me wrong, I think it's a pretty good start, but there is clearly work needs to be done still.

And personally I think even just for it's PVR functions it's worth the Â£190 quid. I don't think you can buy any decent Freeview HD PVR for less than 200quid.

Spot on matey

passingbat · 01-04-2011, 18:03

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Originally Posted by Stephen

after all the new Electric magazine does hint at a lower capacity HDD TiVo being made available at sometime.

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The magazine may hint at it, but one of the emails sent from the CEO office (posted on a forum) said it was a fact.

pauldavies83 · 01-04-2011, 18:06

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Originally Posted by passingbat

That's not really a satisfactory solution now though for people who just want a PVR; 20 hours HD recording just isn't enough.

Maybe VM need to offer a pure PVR only, with a decent size hard drive, and less the Â£3 charge for the Tivo functionality. Maybe it's already in the works?

This reduced sized Tivo coming in June for a rumoured Â£49 still has a question mark over it as 'reduced spec'; this could mean reduced hard drive only, or reduced hard drive size and reduced Tivo functionality. No one seems to want to expand on that.

Amen to that. If they are going to charge so much for TiVo, then why can't they swap the hard drives in V+ boxes to add a bit more recording space.

I'd happily pay Â£50 to be able to record 40/50 hours, instead of the 20 if you lucky currently.

Doesn't even need a new box, just a refurb and drive swap. I'd do it meself if it didn't risk me getting in hot water!

LoveFibre · 01-04-2011, 18:19

Have all the e-mails batches been sent I still have not received any e-mail?

Despite pre-reg and entering the draw.

Double :-(

DaBoz · 01-04-2011, 19:22

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Originally Posted by mersey70

With respect you have previously said you get staff discounts on your services so Â£3 may not be much to you.

As I said us punters will decide if Â£3 is hardly anything, it's not as if it's for content.

Time will tell.

Â£3 is nowt to me. Thats half a pack of fags, or a pint, or 5 cheap iPhone apps, or a sarnie from the Texaco... It's not a lot really.

mattboothers · 01-04-2011, 19:26

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Originally Posted by LoveFibre

Have all the e-mails batches been sent I still have not received any e-mail?

Despite pre-reg and entering the draw.

Double :-(

Not recieved mine either but I only entered the raffle.

But I did get an email saying I lost the draw and would get a special offer soon.

DaBoz · 01-04-2011, 19:36

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Originally Posted by muppetman11

In 3 years time it will still be available will it ?

This industry is changing so fast with the likes of Apple and Google TV, and TV makers looking to license AirPlay etc, in 3 years it'll look very different to now, and hopefully cheaper for all.

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Originally Posted by ntl.wotcha

Beg to differ, I have had issues, particularly US shows which do not show UK premier air dates.

Prime example, Spartacus: Gods of the Area, Mon 4th April will be a UK premier but it's shown with the US air date of 21 Feb and is seen by the box as a repeat. I already reported this one here... still not fixed.

One of the selling points for TiVo is that it can make suggestions on new shows that may interest you, but if the new shows are not correctly flagged then how can that function work properly ? I actually missed the first ep of Spartacus and only found it browsing the Guide.

While I'm at it, I'm still not sold on the whole concept of thumbs up/thumbs down. Yes it theory it sounds great. Thumb up the stuff you like and thumb down the stuff you don't and then in theory it should automatically record stuff you like. The problem is, let's say I like stuff like Quantum leap, so should I thumb up it ? Well if I do then I will get several hundred repeats (as I have watched every episode already) but then if I thumb down it, or don't thumb it, how will it ever learn what I like ?

Additionally I hate coming into a show half way through a season. So what I really want it to do is automatically record *anything* that is S1Ep1, regardless of my likes/dislikes.

Don't get me wrong, I think it's a pretty good start, but there is clearly work needs to be done still.

And personally I think even just for it's PVR functions it's worth the Â£190 quid. I don't think you can buy any decent Freeview HD PVR for less than 200quid.

Sounds like you guys who got it free were beta testers to iron out the bugs. Which is no bad thing in my ind. You've done us a good service, and I thank you for your patience.

Now,

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Originally Posted by pauldavies83

Amen to that. If they are going to charge so much for TiVo, then why can't they swap the hard drives in V+ boxes to add a bit more recording space.

I'd happily pay Â£50 to be able to record 40/50 hours, instead of the 20 if you lucky

That's a good question! I could have done with bigger HD over Xmas!

Bofrok · 01-04-2011, 19:38

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Originally Posted by Stephen

Who knows.

Perhaps if TiVo is the only thing available there won't be the extra Â£3 charge. It could just be included in your monthly fee by then.

I think you are correct there though it will take some time before all boxes are TiVo. Just don't see how Virgin can drop the Â£3 when they have to pay TiVo monthly fees, to do so means they would be making a loss and not a wise thing to do in their financial position.

multiskilled · 01-04-2011, 19:53

Don't forget the cisco hd box can run the tivo UI so I guess that will become the standard box for customers who don't want a pvr.

I guess it wont do suggestions etc or have aps so no Â£3 charge.

Bofrok · 01-04-2011, 20:01

Maybe, it all depends on the terms of the agreed monthly fees - might be fixed or variable guess we will never know.

spankysmagicpian · 01-04-2011, 20:17

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Originally Posted by pauldavies83

Amen to that. If they are going to charge so much for TiVo, then why can't they swap the hard drives in V+ boxes to add a bit more recording space.

I'd happily pay Â£50 to be able to record 40/50 hours, instead of the 20 if you lucky currently.

Doesn't even need a new box, just a refurb and drive swap. I'd do it meself if it didn't risk me getting in hot water!

Spot on Paul. Me too. I'd do it myself also. They should offer that option.

TheDon · 01-04-2011, 20:48

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Originally Posted by LoveFibre

Have all the e-mails batches been sent I still have not received any e-mail?

Despite pre-reg and entering the draw.

Double :-(

I haven't received it either, despite getting the "we'll be in touch soon" email the other week.
I knew I should have changed my name to Dean.