Madeleine McCann

Originally Posted by TheNorm

I bet the Mail would have had something to say if Brazilian "CSI" had come to London to investigate after Jean Charles de Menezes was shot dead at Stockwell Tube station.

I don't doubt it! But it does help illustrate my point - we don't consider it out of order to send our own police to investigate. Does that mean we think we're better than them?

Originally Posted by TheNorm

Well, they might have seen old blood stains when they first entered the room (hours after the disappearance), and dismissed them as not useful to the investigation. It is a bit unfair to criticise people based on reports in the newspapers.

If they did dismiss them, then that adds some justification to those who think they aren't up to it, and gives me comfort that British police are involved. It would be gross incompetence to dismiss anything at a crime scene on first appearances. Only after rigorous forensic testing is complete can anything be dismissed.

[mrmistoffelees]

Originally Posted by danielf

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It's unlikely they'd have noticed with the naked eye.
Is this type of investigation routine for what appears to be an abduction? If not, it does seem the Portuguese Police are criticised harshly.

A forensic investigation does not just cover whats visible to the naked eye.

It's the time that it has taken for them to get to where they are that concerns me.

Originally Posted by mrmistoffelees

A forensic investigation does not just cover whats visible to the naked eye.

It's the time that it has taken for them to get to where they are that concerns me.

What is starting to concern me is that the Portuguese police *haven't* got the investigation to where it now is. The blood stains were discovered by Leicestershire police. You have to wonder whether, without British involvement, they would ever have been found.

[mrmistoffelees]

Originally Posted by Chris T

What is starting to concern me is that the Portuguese police *haven't* got the investigation to where it now is. The blood stains were discovered by Leicestershire police. You have to wonder whether, without British involvement, they would ever have been found.

Agreed entirely, their initial external investigation of the surrounding garden area in the original 'suspects' mothers house had to be all redone. Again this was done by British officers

[slug]

Originally Posted by Gavin

Are they suggesting that Maddy might have died in an accident and the McCann's came back and cleaned/covered up?

Am I reading the article right?

That's how I read it.

[TheDaddy]

Originally Posted by zinglebarb

Well it could be anyones blood. Perhaps some guy smacked his misses the week before or another chap punched someone in the gob and caused it

The investigators are convinced that the blood belongs to Madeleine, but they are still holding back the detailed results of the tests until their suspicions are confirmed

[Saaf_laandon_mo]

Originally Posted by mrmistoffelees

Agreed entirely, their initial external investigation of the surrounding garden area in the original 'suspects' mothers house had to be all redone. Again this was done by British officers

And didnt that result in the same conclusion as the Portuguese search, i.e nothing new was found?

As I understand the Portuguese have invited police from the UK to review their investigation, most probably to see where they could have done things different. Its a shame that they weren't working together much earlier though.

[mrmistoffelees]

Originally Posted by slug

That's how I read it.

At work there has been quite a lot of dicussion regarding the whole investigation and the behaviour of the parents. The majority think the parents are potentially involved in this some way or the other.

Was interesting to see when they actually held a press conference for the sole purpose of being able to forensically analyze the parents behaviour.

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Originally Posted by Saaf_laandon_mo

And didnt that result in the same conclusion as the Portuguese search, i.e nothing new was found?

As I understand the Portuguese have invited police from the UK to review their investigation, most probably to see where they could have done things different. Its a shame that they weren't working together much earlier though.

It does not matter wether something was found or not, what matters is that it should have been done properly the first time around !

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Originally Posted by TheDaddy

The investigators are convinced that the blood belongs to Madeleine, but they are still holding back the detailed results of the tests until their suspicions are confirmed

Link please ?

Originally Posted by mrmistoffelees

At work there has been quite a lot of dicussion regarding the whole investigation and the behaviour of the parents. The majority think the parents are potentially involved in this some way or the other.

Was interesting to see when they actually held a press conference for the sole purpose of being able to forensically analyze the parents behaviour.

No matter how hard I try, I can't come up with a convincing motive for the McCanns to have done such a thing. It just doesn't add up.

[danielf]

Originally Posted by mrmistoffelees

Link please ?

That's from the daily mail article, so I'd take it with a rather large quantity of salt.

Let's not forget this is a holiday resort. I suspect the chances of finding minute blood specks on the wall of any room in a holiday resort are fairly large.

[mrmistoffelees]

Originally Posted by Chris T

No matter how hard I try, I can't come up with a convincing motive for the McCanns to have done such a thing. It just doesn't add up.

It's rare but it's not unknown unfortunately.

[slug]

Originally Posted by Chris T

No matter how hard I try, I can't come up with a convincing motive for the McCanns to have done such a thing. It just doesn't add up.

Unless there was an accident of some kind.

[mrmistoffelees]

Originally Posted by danielf

That's from the daily mail article, so I'd take it with a rather large quantity of salt.

So I gather there is no direct quote from any investigating officer then ? (Which of course there would not be in the first place)

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Originally Posted by danielf

That's from the daily mail article, so I'd take it with a rather large quantity of salt.

Let's not forget this is a holiday resort. I suspect the chances of finding minute blood specks on the wall of any room in a holiday resort are fairly large.

Absoloutely true, which makes it all the more imperitive that it's decided to be vital to the investigation or not.

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Originally Posted by slug

Unless there was an accident of some kind.

Which if so, why would they hide the body ? An accident is an accident

[TheDaddy]

Originally Posted by TheNorm

I bet the Mail would have had something to say if Brazilian "CSI" had come to London to investigate after Jean Charles de Menezes was shot dead at Stockwell Tube station.

Tbh it was bad enough having to give succour to those that did come over, at least when he was shot it was a genuine tragic mistake, how many hundreds of thousands of kids did Brazillian police get away with murdering for decades, their only crime was to be poor and homeless, perhaps we should have asked them how those investigations were going before accepting their help

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Originally Posted by mrmistoffelees

Link please ?

It's from the article I posted earlier

Originally Posted by mrmistoffelees

It's rare but it's not unknown unfortunately.

Absolutely, I'm not saying 'parents never murder their kids' - just that in this case, I can't see any circumstances under which it would make sense. They're in a foreign country, in a busy holiday centre ... the very last place an intelligent adult would choose to do away with someone.

Originally Posted by slug

Unless there was an accident of some kind.

What reason could they have for covering up an accident and disposing of the body? This isn't a daytime soap opera.