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Re: Black Lives Matter
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Originally Posted by heero_yuy
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Quote from The Sun:
England rugby fans could be banned from singing Swing Low, Sweet Chariot at games over the song’s associations with slavery.
Fans can usually be heard bellowing out the song from the stands at Twickenham but it's now being examined after the Rugby Football Union launched a review into racism.
The review was started after Black Lives Matter supporters called for a review of Britain’s cultural past and its links to the slave trade.
Protests flared up following the death of George Floyd in Minneapolis while he was in police custody.
The traditional song was written by a black slave in southern America during the 19th century
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Sounds like a made up story to stoke outrage, as "Swing Low Sweet Chariot" was used during the Civil Rights marches in the USA in the 1960s.
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19-06-2020, 13:14
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Re: Black Lives Matter
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So we needn't bother doing anything.Apathy should be our watchword.
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Good Lord no, we should carry on destroying everything around us, and making everyones life a misery so we can all be on an equal footing 
I see they got to Penny Lane too (can't be bothered to link)
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19-06-2020, 13:17
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Re: Black Lives Matter
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Good Lord no, we should carry on destroying everything around us, and making everyones life a misery so we can all be on an equal footing
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One statue...
Mr. Hyperbole appears to be busting your posts. 
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19-06-2020, 13:33
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Re: Black Lives Matter
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Quote from Hugh:
Sounds like a made up story to stoke outrage, as "Swing Low Sweet Chariot" was used during the Civil Rights marches in the USA in the 1960s.
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Being reported on numerous press web sites including BBC news. I think it's unlikely that the BBC would run a story that wasn't authentic?
But then the standards at the BBC are in terminal decline.
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19-06-2020, 13:41
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Re: Black Lives Matter
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Originally Posted by heero_yuy
Being reported on numerous press web sites including BBC news. I think it's unlikely that the BBC would run a story that wasn't authentic?
But then the standards at the BBC are in terminal decline.
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Let's hope they get rid of rap and hip hop and all that related rubbish
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19-06-2020, 13:45
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Re: Black Lives Matter
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One statue...
Mr. Hyperbole appears to be busting your posts. |
go for a drive, test your eyes
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19-06-2020, 15:08
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Re: Black Lives Matter
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Originally Posted by Hugh
Sounds like a made up story to stoke outrage, as "Swing Low Sweet Chariot" was used during the Civil Rights marches in the USA in the 1960s.
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Originally Posted by Paul
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The Rugby Football Union (RFU) is reviewing England fans' use of Swing Low, Sweet Chariot, saying many do not know about its links with slavery.
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Latest BBC article : https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/rugby-union/53096584
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19-06-2020, 16:45
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Re: Black Lives Matter
No one is really calling on the RFU to ban it though, they seem to have taken on the reviews themselves.
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19-06-2020, 16:50
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Re: Black Lives Matter
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No one is really calling on the RFU to ban it though, they seem to have taken on the reviews themselves.
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Right so either:
a) they are scared of potential scrutiny
b) they are using it get attention
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19-06-2020, 16:54
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Re: Black Lives Matter
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No one is really calling on the RFU to ban it though, they seem to have taken on the reviews themselves.
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Yes, they're just being thoughtful and reflective.
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19-06-2020, 17:09
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Re: Black Lives Matter
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Right so either:
a) they are scared of potential scrutiny
b) they are using it get attention
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I think it's just organisations are proactively trying to consider these things and occasionally missing the mark, or even just getting too much attention for what they assume are just cautious steps.
There now seems to be an attempt to put some of the more frivolous issues front and centre as opposed to issues such as if they are inequalities in the justice system, if there is systematic racism in society and has Britain confronted the issue of it's past sufficiently. You could argue that song might fall under the last bracket but really it's not something people have paid attention too. Instead, they've been focusing on more obvious examples such as the Rhodes statue.
Outside of Twitter has anyone seen any real campaign to change Uncle Ben's rice or Swing Low, Sweet Chariot? It's manufactured outrage. People want silly examples to get outraged about rather than serious ones.
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19-06-2020, 17:17
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Re: Black Lives Matter
This is not a attempt to put frivolous things forward. This is a scapegoat response from people who don't know how to wash the sin away. They look at the systems and either cannot see a way to reduce racism or are prohibited someway.
Truth is the definition of systemic racism is so flexible that it cannot be solved meaningfully.
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19-06-2020, 17:55
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Re: Black Lives Matter
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Originally Posted by Damien
I think it's just organisations are proactively trying to consider these things and occasionally missing the mark, or even just getting too much attention for what they assume are just cautious steps.
There now seems to be an attempt to put some of the more frivolous issues front and centre as opposed to issues such as if they are inequalities in the justice system, if there is systematic racism in society and has Britain confronted the issue of it's past sufficiently. You could argue that song might fall under the last bracket but really it's not something people have paid attention too. Instead, they've been focusing on more obvious examples such as the Rhodes statue.
Outside of Twitter has anyone seen any real campaign to change Uncle Ben's rice or Swing Low, Sweet Chariot? It's manufactured outrage. People want silly examples to get outraged about rather than serious ones.
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It keeps the woke warriors happy.
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19-06-2020, 18:03
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Re: Black Lives Matter
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It keeps the woke warriors happy.
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It also allows some people to call people they disagree with "woke", which some people think is an insult.
Better "woke" than "broke"...
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19-06-2020, 18:24
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Re: Black Lives Matter
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It also allows some people to call people they disagree with "woke", which some people think is an insult.
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It's the ones that are not "woke" that are being fired or forced to resign, and therefore ending up broke.
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