Football Season 2011/12 - Page 381

Cobbydaler · 15-05-2012, 23:53

Brilliant...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature...&v=cidFBz2Csfs

Shadow Demon UK · 16-05-2012, 00:12

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Originally Posted by thenry

not Terry please. not even in the squad.

Walker, Ferdinand, Richards out

Zamora and Joe Cole in....

I'm hoping Owen Hargreaves might get a call up if this is the case

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Tony Hibbert must be in with a shout also...

TheDaddy · 16-05-2012, 03:34

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Originally Posted by Damien

Alonso leaving is when Liverpool's midfield turned to rubbish, he never got the credit he deserved at Liverpool because he was playing next to Stephen Gerrard who instantly got any credit. Gerrard would get the attention because he was a good player who was English, because he had traits that people view as English (he did work hard, he certainly shouted a lot and looked like he was about to punch someone most of the time) and because he would do the Hollywood pass. The pass that breaks open a defence and looks amazing but rarely comes off and instead gifts possession to the opposing team. Alonso never did that, he was the true Liverpool rival to Fabregas and Scholes. Great vision, great and effective passing, rarely loses the ball and can control a game in the same way the aforementioned players could. Great player.

Alonso is now getting the credit he does deserve as one of the key players at Real Madrid. He really is that good. Him leaving Liverpool has equivalent to Fabregas living Arsenal but Liverpool never had anyone to replace him.

It's criminal he was so overlooked.

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Also Ferdinand is out of the England team for Euro 2012. Shame, always liked him. However they are concerned about his injury record.

Liverpool the best midfield in the world back then imo, mascerano, Alonso and Gerrard, with Torres up front. I'll tell you what's criminal Liverpool trying to replace Alonso with Garth Barry.

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Originally Posted by gazzae

Was at Harry Greggs testimonial tonight. Was a decent game - took a while to get going. Utd won 4-1 against an Irish League select. Evra, Young x 2 and Rooney the scorers.
Should have been more but Owen and Berbatov were useless in the first half - Owen missing an absolute sitter.
Overall a fitting match for a Utd legend.

The mans a legend full stop, not only the best goalkeeper united ever had but also the bravest what he did in Munich should never be forgotten imo. Btw this can't be his first testimonial surly.

denphone · 16-05-2012, 05:36

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Originally Posted by Damien

Gerrard?! Ugh. Vastly overrated. Scholes and Fabregas were better midfielders than him. Lacked positional awareness and discipline, had a tendency for the glory pass rather than the simple, better options but ran around a lot, shouted a lot and showed 'heart' which compensated for it in the mind of pundits. Lampard was also better.

I tell you who else was better, Alonso.

Yes Alonso is a player who we are missing to this day.

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Originally Posted by thenry

Alonso. If only our bid for him was accepted!

Yes its that old saying of Ifs, Buts and Maybes.

gazzae · 16-05-2012, 09:39

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Originally Posted by TheDaddy

The mans a legend full stop, not only the best goalkeeper united ever had but also the bravest what he did in Munich should never be forgotten imo. Btw this can't be his first testimonial surly.

Yes first testimonial, not sure why it took 40 years.
A true hero but would never describe himself as one.

nstokes · 16-05-2012, 13:12

Well it has now been officially announced that Rio Ferdinand will be left out of the Euro 2012 squad

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England squad for Euro 2012:

Goalkeepers: Joe Hart (Man City), Rob Green (West Ham), John Ruddy (Norwich)

Defenders: Glen Johnson (Liverpool), Phil Jones (Man United), John Terry (Chelsea), Joleon Lescott (Man City), Gary Cahill (Chelsea), Ashley Cole (Chelsea), Leighton Baines (Everton)

Midfielders: Theo Walcott (Arsenal), Stewart Downing (Liverpool), Alex Oxlade-Chamberlain (Arsenal), Steven Gerrard (Liverpool), Gareth Barry (Man City), Frank Lampard (Chelsea), Scott Parker (Tottenham), Ashley Young (Man United), James Milner (Man City)

Forwards: Wayne Rooney (Man United), Danny Welbeck (Man United), Andy Carroll (Liverpool), Jermain Defoe (Tottenham)

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Standby Players are Goalkeeper Jack Butland , Phil Jagielka, Jordan Henderson, Adam Johnson and Daniel Sturridge

thenry · 16-05-2012, 13:14

Oxo Cube

**Damien** · 16-05-2012, 13:20

Maybe Downing provides moral support.

Shadow Demon UK · 16-05-2012, 13:21

Stewart Downing?? Seriously? You look at that squad and you can really see how poor the current group of England players are.

nstokes · 16-05-2012, 13:21

I dont think its a bad squad. Some experienced players and some good young players

denphone · 16-05-2012, 13:25

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Originally Posted by Shadow Demon UK

Stewart Downing?? Seriously? You look at that squad and you can really see how poor the current group of England players are.

Well everybody's entitled to a opinion but l don't think we are as bad as people make out.

Shadow Demon UK · 16-05-2012, 13:25

Jordan Henderson over Michael Carrick in the reserves is a bizarre one as well...

**Damien** · 16-05-2012, 13:30

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Originally Posted by denphone

Well everybody's entitled to a opinion but l don't think we are as bad as people make out.

Chamberlain has played only a handful of games for Arsenal and has had more assists and goals than Downing.

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Originally Posted by Shadow Demon UK

Jordan Henderson over Michael Carrick in the reserves is a bizarre one as well...

Maybe he is trying to show up Liverpool.

denphone · 16-05-2012, 13:35

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Originally Posted by Damien

Chamberlain has played only a handful of games for Arsenal and has had more assists and goals than Downing.

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Yes he has had more assists but he is still a bit too inexperienced for my liking for such a major tournament.

Shadow Demon UK · 16-05-2012, 13:35

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Originally Posted by Damien

Chamberlain has played only a handful of games for Arsenal and has had more assists and goals than Downing.

Tim Howard has scored more goals than Stewart Downing this season...