Football : Season 2011/12

Originally Posted by Russ

As much as I love watching their flatulent attempts at success each season, I never thought I'd see the day Arsenal become little more than a feeder club for bigger sides

Exaggerating things a tad there. Fabregas left for reasons we all know about. Nasri left to City for more money in the same direction Rooney was going before Man United offered him £200,000 a week.

[denphone]

Originally Posted by Damien

The main concern now is halt the bleeding. The Champions League game is more important than United right now, can cope with losing the United game without as much long term damage being done. Get past tomorrow, stabilise the sense of panic, then sign some players, and we can be fresh and back at it by the team the International break is over.

Rumour is Hazard is waiting to see if we qualify. If we get Hazard in there then the fans spirits will get a much needed boost!

Just be patient and l am sure Mr Wenger will bring 2 or 3 players in before the transfer window ends.

[colin25]

Originally Posted by yesman

I couldn't agree more

The future does look good though

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If it is any concilation to you, I quite like Lulu

lol

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Originally Posted by Pog66

The formal approach is to use the report post button Arthur - then the Team can decide.

Personally, can't see anything to warn about

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so you'll be cheering on Spurs again on Thursday then?

I just hope it isn't a cricket score....mainly as I don't like cricket

[Shadow Demon UK]

Originally Posted by Damien

Exaggerating things a tad there. Fabregas left for reasons we all know about. Nasri left to City for more money in the same direction Rooney was going before Man United offered him £200,000 a week.

Do you think Nasri left for more money? He will probably have a better chance of winning trophies at city. I actually thought he went about getting a move well, he never came out saying he wanted to move, was prepared to play until the end of his contract and didn't sign a new 5 year deal then request a move like some players do e.g Modric.

[colin25]

Originally Posted by Shadow Demon UK

Do you think Nasri left for more money? He will probably have a better chance of winning trophies at city. I actually thought he went about getting a move well, he never came out saying he wanted to move, was prepared to play until the end of his contract and didn't sign a new 5 year deal then request a move like some players do e.g Modric.

and fabregas...i think he signed a new 6 year deal a couple of years ago...then started talking about leaving.

If i sign a 6 year contract...two guesses what the outcome would be..6 years hard labour (oops, no need to guess now )

Originally Posted by Shadow Demon UK

Do you think Nasri left for more money? He will probably have a better chance of winning trophies at city. I actually thought he went about getting a move well, he never came out saying he wanted to move, was prepared to play until the end of his contract and didn't sign a new 5 year deal then request a move like some players do e.g Modric.

He was offered a better contract early last year, which he and his agent stalled on. He had other offers during the Summer, early on it was United, but at City they are more than doubling what Arsenal could offer. He clearly went for the money, not that there is anything wrong that to be honest.

As for how he handled it. He was left out of both Champions League games at his own request, it's hard to judge because there are so few leaks from Arsenal no one every knows what is actually happening.

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Originally Posted by colin25

and fabregas...i think he signed a new 6 year deal a couple of years ago...then started talking about leaving.

Fabregas was also honest about his situation though. Everyone knew he was a Barcelona fan, a product of their youth system, someone whose childhood friends were at a club that is accepted as the best in the world. He never denied he would one day want to return, and he always gave his best when a deal failed to materialise as it did last season.

[denphone]

Originally Posted by colin25

and fabregas...i think he signed a new 6 year deal a couple of years ago...then started talking about leaving.

If i sign a 6 year contract...two guesses what the outcome would be..6 years hard labour (oops, no need to guess now )

Nowadays contracts are not worth the paper they are written on.

[Shadow Demon UK]

Originally Posted by Damien

He was offered a better contract early last year, which he and his agent stalled on. He had other offers during the Summer, early on it was United, but at City they are more than doubling what Arsenal could offer. He clearly went for the money, not that there is anything wrong that to be honest.

As for how he handled it. He was left out of both Champions League games at his own request, it's hard to judge because there are so few leaks from Arsenal no one every knows what is actually happening.

But if he wanted to leave then not signing a contract was the right thing to do, whether it was to do with money or not. Maybe he saw it as joining City or United would mean he would get more money and a better chance of winning something, which is fair enough. Being left out of the Champions League games was as much for his benefit as Arsenals, you would probably have got nothing for him if he had played in them.

[iadom]

Originally Posted by Shadow Demon UK

Do you think Nasri left for more money?

Now let me think about that one for at least a nano second.

Of course he did, he has stated to friends in France that he wanted to go to United or to Spain so the only reason he has accepted his third choice is the money, as is the case with virtually all of the Man City signings of the past few years.

When they start to win things on a regular basis which they surely will if the Arabs don't pull the plug then that might change but anyone who thinks that any player signed by City in recent times is there for the love of the club is seriously deluded. It will take many years before that will happen.

[Shadow Demon UK]

Originally Posted by iadom

Now let me think about that one for at least a nano second.

Of course he did, he has stated to friends in France that he wanted to go to United or to Spain so the only reason he has accepted his third choice is the money, as is the case with virtually all of the Man City signings of the past few years.

When they start to win things on a regular basis which they surely will if the Arabs don't pull the plug then that might change but anyone who thinks that any player signed by City in recent times is there for the love of the club is seriously deluded. It will take many years before that will happen.

I would have agreed with you last year, but they're now in the champions league and are probably Uniteds biggest challenge for the title this season. Theres no reason why top players would not want to join them now. They certainly have a better chance of winning things than Arsenal do, thats for sure.

[ChrisLUFC22]

Originally Posted by denphone

Just be patient and l am sure Mr Wenger will bring 2 or 3 players in before the transfer window ends.

...Kids, maybe. Doubt he'll splash the cash. Apparently had £40m to spend before Fab and Nasri left and they've bought.. an unproven winger from France. Can't be long now 'til Wenger goes. Could possibly losing the Champs League qualifier tomorrow night be the final nail..?

[devilincarnate]

Originally Posted by denphone

Nowadays contracts are not worth the paper they are written on.

That is why all the paper that the contracts are on are made by Andrex

[denphone]

Originally Posted by ChrisLUFC22

...Kids, maybe. Doubt he'll splash the cash. Apparently had £40m to spend before Fab and Nasri left and they've bought.. an unproven winger from France. Can't be long now 'til Wenger goes. Could possibly losing the Champs League qualifier tomorrow night be the final nail..?

No l think people are overhyping the crisis at Arsenal and l think they will qualify tomorrow night but 2 or 3 strong experienced players l suspect would be welcome by Arsenal supporters before the transfer window closes.

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Originally Posted by devilincarnate

That is why all the paper that the contracts are on are made by Andrex

No l use Charmine as its harder to rip it up.

[ChrisLUFC22]

Originally Posted by denphone

No l think people are overhyping the crisis at Arsenal and l think they will qualify tomorrow night but 2 or 3 strong experienced players l suspect would be welcome by Arsenal supporters before the transfer window closes.

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Welcomed? I should imagine most fans would be willing to pick them up from the airport and put them up for a few nights

[denphone]

Originally Posted by ChrisLUFC22

Welcomed? I should imagine most fans would be willing to pick them up from the airport and put them up for a few nights

Well if it was Wesley Sneijder and it was Liverpool he would be welcomed to stay at my abode.