FIFA World Cup 2010 South Africa

[Salu]

Apparently Oxo have come out with a new cube in honour of the England team. It's on a white background with a red cross on it and of course, it's called......


























.......the "laughing stock"....

[Kymmy]

Originally Posted by Salu

Apparently Oxo have come out with a new cube in honour of the England team.

Congrats on being the third person on the forum with that joke..

[Salu]

Darn it. I searched too...

[Matty_]

Most things have allready been said so i won`t go over old ground

The only thing i don`t think has been mentioned is that this was not a very good German team we where playing. They didn`t play all that well either yet still managed to score four times

If you took the England teams players at club level and said to the managers of said players "would you swap him for the opposite German player" maybe 2 or 3 would go for the German player.
Argentina will devour the Germans in the quarters, they have pace up front which they are able to use effectively, in other words the forwards can control/hold on to/use the ball and the Germans defence is not much better than ours.

Spain is the only hope for a European country in this world cup with France, Italy and England allready out it seems that European football at International level has really dropped to a new low. Maybe the influx of South American/African players into all the major European leagues is finally starting to bite...

I haven`t a clue what the answer is, maybe there isn`t one

[Saaf_laandon_mo]

Originally Posted by Matty_

Most things have allready been said so i won`t go over old ground

The only thing i don`t think has been mentioned is that this was not a very good German team we where playing. They didn`t play all that well either yet still managed to score four times

If you took the England teams players at club level and said to the managers of said players "would you swap him for the opposite German player" maybe 2 or 3 would go for the German player.
Argentina will devour the Germans in the quarters, they have pace up front which they are able to use effectively, in other words the forwards can control/hold on to/use the ball and the Germans defence is not much better than ours.

Spain is the only hope for a European country in this world cup with France, Italy and England allready out it seems that European football at International level has really dropped to a new low. Maybe the influx of South American/African players into all the major European leagues is finally starting to bite...

I haven`t a clue what the answer is, maybe there isn`t one

Portugal will beat Spain tomorrow, i think Spain have been pretty poor this world cup. I think Portugal will get to the semis personally.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2...dknapp-england

Ol 'arry is up for being England manager

[danielf]

Fifa swiftly respond to the controversy surrounding Argentina's offside goal which was replayed on the stadium screens, so everybody saw it was an offside goal but it still stood.

Football's governing body has announced that it will crack down on World Cup match action being shown on stadium giant screens after replays of Tevez's disputed goal against Mexico sparked arguments on the pitch.

Maingot said the replaying of such incidents "should not happen," and will be more tightly controlled at future matches.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/foot...10/8766423.stm

Great solution. As of now, when there is no replay of a goal in the stadium, the crowd will know there was something fishy. Needless to say, Fifa see no reason to reopen the debate on goal-line technology.

[Julian]

I think the thing that will wind a lot of people up is when pictures of England team players "relaxing on holiday" start appearing in the press in a few days.

They earn enough money in their full time jobs, their club managers will be delighted they have been knocked out and any negative feelings from fans will be forgotten when they pull on their club jerseys.

Originally Posted by Julian

I think the thing that will wind a lot of people up is when pictures of England team players "relaxing on holiday" start appearing in the press in a few days.

They earn enough money in their full time jobs, their club managers will be delighted they have been knocked out and any negative feelings from fans will be forgotten when they pull on their club jerseys.

I would rather my club do well than England but since not a single Arsenal player was in the squad I am spared any conflicting emotions anyway

[Peter_]

Originally Posted by Damien

I would rather my club do well than England but since not a single Arsenal player was in the squad I am spared any conflicting emotions anyway

They were mostly in all the other teams though.

[TheDaddy]

Originally Posted by Damien

Ol 'arry is up for being England manager

Great choice, what if he ends up in prison though......

Originally Posted by TheDaddy

Great choice, what if he ends up in prison though......

It would be Funny. Plus, why wait until the next international tournament before firing the manager? We can fire them quicker than that!

Also, As a Arsenal fan, Spurs will miss him (Also he has a habit of leaving clubs just before everything goes tits up!).

Seriously though his teams play proper, attacking, football that is a joy to watch and it would be nice to see England to be fun to watch. Although I worry he will play favourites and we'll see Defoe, Crouch and Cole in the team all the time. Defoe fair enough but the other loy I don't rate as first team English players.

[TheDaddy]

Originally Posted by Damien

It would be Funny. Plus, why wait until the next international tournament before firing the manager? We can fire them quicker than that!

Also, As a Arsenal fan, Spurs will miss him (Also he has a habit of leaving clubs just before everything goes tits up!).

Seriously though his teams play proper, attacking, football that is a joy to watch and it would be nice to see England to be fun to watch. Although I worry he will play favourites and we'll see Defoe, Crouch and Cole in the team all the time. Defoe fair enough but the other loy I don't rate as first team English players.

It would be funny and I agree with your last paragraph to, I still rate Harry very highly, he should have been given a top job years ago.

[Niles Crane]

Great article, "How Ingerland is Killing England". Some excerpts:

The worst thing about an England tournament exit is the fall-out; the phone-ins with idiot fans, the tabloid hyperbole, the pundits with easy solutions and the inevitable sacking of the manager.

This is the noise of what I call Ingerland; the noise of people who expected too much based on nothing other than their own myriad delusions, false assumptions and insane expectations.

The more rational, perceptive voice of England fans gets drowned out in the all this bluster.

Ingerland fans are full of rubbish. To these people it is always the players who were not picked that would have provided the solution. If only Darren Bent had been selected, or Theo Walcott or whoever, they would have turned things around. One caller to 606 offers the argument that Liverpool won five trophies when Peter Crouch played for them as proof of why Crouch should have played from the start. He's totally sure. Pity that it's not true.

England fans know that just picking another couple of players who are inculcated into the same football culture, the same youth training, with the same attitude, will not help. England fans know a revolution from the grassroots upwards is what is required, not just shuffling the chairs on the deck of a Titanic.

But the bellicose howling of Ingerland is now in full flow with fans shouting about Capello being foreign. That's always the problem to Ingerland fans - "get 'Arry in" says one Ingerland blow-hard, "he's proper English".

Proper. English.

Ingerland doesn't like foreign. Indeed, to the Ingerland man, it's the foreigners who are to blame for pretty much everything.

England fans know this is spurious nonsense, not least because the results under English managers have been no better. Our best-ever run of form was under Sven. Ingerland has forgotten this and chooses only to remember the tabloid portrayal of him as a funny foreigner who was a loser.

England fans know that it's not the management that is the problem, it's everything else.

Another Ingerland fan drags out a favourite cliché calling them 'overpaid prima donnas' and wants the government to cut their wages, stunningly unaware that they are not public sector workers. He just seems to want to punish them; to hurt them.

England fans know that it matters not how much you're paid, if you're not able to play less rigid, inflexible football from an early age; if you can't control a ball with one touch, if you are caught out of position and are too slow to compete, you are going to end up losing. Making them poorer won't change that.

After every tournament failure we hear the full cry of Ingerland eagerly looking for scapegoats, wanting to wipe the past clean and start again, wanting a silver bullet to make it all better. The domination of Ingerland fans and the Ingerland press who feed them at times like this are all part of the England problem. Their bluster and ignorance puts up a smokescreen and obfuscates more rational, intelligent debate and thought.

I genuinely believe most England fans know what the basic problems are and how they might be solved in the long term, the trouble is it's the voices of Ingerland who all too often gear and drive the authorities' decisions. Ingerland says it is the carrier of the flame of Olde Albion. It is the only one who really cares and many in authority believe them or are too scared to take them on.

In short, Ingerland is killing England.