Post-Brexit Thread - Page 38

27-06-2016, 21:33

People are angry at Boris and gove but they didn't start this, make pledges during the referendum to see it through and then quit and if it makes sense to not implement article 50 right away why did Cameron say he would there is no defending him here. Plus if remain had won last week and political action was needed to implement something on that I doubt some people would be as happy with the feet dragging as they are at the minute.

**Damien** · 27-06-2016, 21:36

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More credit downgrades:

UK loses top credit rating from S&P

We've covered that before although Fitch has downgraded us tonight too: https://www.fitchratings.com/site/pr...ase?id=1008074

papa smurf · 27-06-2016, 21:36

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He wasn't going to be pm after the next election anyway this way he keeps getting the pay of a pm without having to do any of the work in sorting out the mess he created and don't tell me he promised a referendum for the good of the people because he is doing anything but acting in the good of nation or people now. He gave a referendum to stop ukip at the last GE and to keep elements in his party quiet and he never thought a leave vote would win. He is still the prime minister in title and doing bugger all to help except staying in the position stopping anyone coming in and sorting things out.

he's having a tantrum and wont play nice ,the problem is as we all know its wrong to spank a child even if it is a spoiled over privileged brat ,we can only hope he will soon pick up his dummy and start behaving himself before he ruins the country .

ianch99 · 27-06-2016, 21:39

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Originally Posted by RizzyKing

People are angry at Boris and gove but they didn't start this, make pledges during the referendum to see it through and then quit and if it makes sense to not implement article 50 right away why did Cameron say he would there is no defending him here. Plus if remain had won last week and political action was needed to implement something on that I doubt some people would be as happy with the feet dragging as they are at the minute.

So why are people angry at Boris and the The Gover? Could it be because they lied?

Sorry, strike that last comment from the record. Just a whining sore loser ... there's no problem here, no problem at all ..

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We've covered that before although Fitch has downgraded us tonight too: https://www.fitchratings.com/site/pr...ase?id=1008074

Sorry, can't keep up

This just flashed up as Breaking News so I though it had just happened.

**Damien** · 27-06-2016, 21:43

The only realistic option now is if the EU were to promise EEA and we said yes before a new leader arrives. That wouldn't be tenable so there will be a while before we know either way.

27-06-2016, 21:44

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he's having a tantrum and wont play nice ,the problem is as we all know its wrong to spank a child even if it is a spoiled over privileged brat ,we can only hope he will soon pick up his dummy and start behaving himself before he ruins the country .

I think some people need to wake up, the pound dropping, the FTSE falling, pensions losing value does not effect a lot of Leavers.

On this forum is seems we are a lucky lot, I'm assuming we are on or above average £35k-£45k salaries? Also in relationships with a second earner? My wife works as an out reach worker to some of the poorest outside of London.

You have no idea why they voted Leave if you think it was immigration!

27-06-2016, 21:49

Some of us never believed anything from the campaigns and voted for reasons that made sense to us but I know that's hard for some remained to accept, yes Boris and gove lied it was quite clear before the vote they were full of it but that didn't mean voting leave was wrong there were other reasons people voted leave. Now the problem is clear that what people wanted and what the current bunch of politicians are capable of delivering is massively different.

For the record and just so I'm clear Boris Johnson is a scheming two faced selfish opportunistic slug and shouldn't get within a country mile of power as that was his whole motivation not for a second was he interested in the good of the UK just the good of Boris. Leaving the EU was still valid as most people do not want to be part of a European superstate governed by anyone other then citizens of the uk in a uk parliament. This current instability is deliberate on the part of politicians and serves Boris quite well if we the public let it continue.

**Damien** · 27-06-2016, 21:51

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This current instability is deliberate on the part of politicians and serves Boris quite well if we the public let it continue.

It's not deliberate. It's quite clear no-one has a clue what to do.

27-06-2016, 21:52

It is deliberate and Cameron knew damn well what he was doing when he quit but didn't demand a leadership election immediately.

denphone · 27-06-2016, 21:54

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It's not deliberate. It's quite clear no-one has a clue what to do.

Just like the English football team then Damien.

**Damien** · 27-06-2016, 21:54

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It is deliberate and Cameron knew damn well what he was doing when he quit but didn't demand a leadership election immediately.

He did demand a leadership election immediately.

This will be one of the shortest leadership elections in a while. Nominations close this week I think.

It's not deliberate because you think there is just something we can do but it's clear no-one knows what that is.

27-06-2016, 21:57

He didn't start that Damien Tory backbenchers have bought the leadership election forward.

Gavin78 · 27-06-2016, 22:02

That's what makes me laugh now. Boris and Gove might have led the leave campaign it doesn't me we voted for them. Remain seem to be a bit slow at catching up on this still

jamiefrost · 27-06-2016, 22:19

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I think some people need to wake up, the pound dropping, the FTSE falling, pensions losing value does not effect a lot of Leavers.

On this forum is seems we are a lucky lot, I'm assuming we are on or above average £35k-£45k salaries? Also in relationships with a second earner? My wife works as an out reach worker to some of the poorest outside of London.

You have no idea why they voted Leave if you think it was immigration!

Yes some people do need to wake up, a lot of people have work place pensions all effected by the FTSE dropping.

I guess leavers don't drive cars, go abroad on holiday, don't use gas or electricity all effected by a dropping pound.

So just why did they vote leave if it was not immigration, border control and all of the money we are going to save.

Non of which are going to happen by the looks of it.

J

**Damien** · 27-06-2016, 22:22

None of this is helping. We are where we are at the moment. As some point, hopefully this week, the bad news will stop and we'll hit a period of relative calm at least for a bit. The worry is that it does look almost certain that we're heading for a recession. If anyone in politics has a good idea now would be the time to air it.