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Re: Britain outside the EU
What is a "business friendly tax regime", please?
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07-09-2023, 12:35
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Re: Britain outside the EU
That is either a naive or, more likely, a trap question. You and most others full well know the answer.
It’s certainly not what we have now.
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07-09-2023, 12:39
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Re: Britain outside the EU
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That is either a naive or, more likely, a trap question. You and most others full well know the answer.
It’s certainly not what we have now.
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But did they not tell you and everybody else this country would have the best "business friendly tax regime" once we were out of the EU.
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07-09-2023, 12:43
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Re: Britain outside the EU
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It will take time to build up with the right level of EU cooperation, an expanded business activity away from the EU.
It just needs a business friendly tax regime from the government and the rest will follow.
You rabid Remainers take no positive attitude at all. Yet you and I both think the government is crap. There is no future in taking orders from Brussels. But there is a business future if government makes it possible.
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That's rather disingenuous. Jonbxx and I have been absolutely clear that this deal is good news. But I agree with TheDaddy that it was something we enjoyed as part of our previous EU membership. Brexiters should also be happy to tot up that as there are 40 countries in Horizon, there will be some other non-EU countries too - it is after all the biggest such scheme in the World.
Outside the EU, we will find ourselves an EU rule-taker as they set European standards which we won't be able to influence so easily as when we had a seat at the table. They are set to ensure that the mighty Apple ditches its lightning charging socket for its iPhones in place of USB-C in the EU. Apple won't sell special models just for the UK so we will be a rule-follower there. I wouldn't be surprised if Apple followed the USB-C approach globally too.
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07-09-2023, 12:57
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Re: Britain outside the EU
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That is either a naive or, more likely, a trap question. You and most others full well know the answer.
It’s certainly not what we have now.
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No, I don’t - that’s why I asked.
"business friendly" means different things to different people, and "most people" would probably have a lot of different answers like CGT rates, Corporation Tax rates, Investment Relief, R&D Relief, Dividend Exemption, etc…
If you can’t back up an assertion with a definition, that’s up to you, but then it’s just a meaningless sound-bite, rather than a positive proposal…
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07-09-2023, 13:18
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Re: Britain outside the EU
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But did they not tell you and everybody else this country would have the best "business friendly tax regime" once we were out of the EU.
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Yes - and they have failed there. Useless government but no reason to have remained in the EU and under eventual rule from Brussels.
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No, I don’t - that’s why I asked.
"business friendly" means different things to different people, and "most people" would probably have a lot of different answers like CGT rates, Corporation Tax rates, Investment Relief, R&D Relief, Dividend Exemption, etc…
If you can’t back up an assertion with a definition, that’s up to you, but then it’s just a meaningless sound-bite, rather than a positive proposal…
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In the realms of the bleedin’ obvious for this context, I shouldn’t have to waste effort with further elucidation.
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07-09-2023, 13:37
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Re: Britain outside the EU
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You rabid Remainers take no positive attitude at all. Yet you and I both think the government is crap. There is no future in taking orders from Brussels. But there is a business future if government makes it possible.
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You heard yourself? It's pathetic trying to celebrate this as a victory when a few short years ago you were celebrating leaving such institutions and how deluded and misinformed are you, we are an associate member now taking whatever the EU decides to give us, how's that for taking orders 
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07-09-2023, 13:58
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You heard yourself? It's pathetic trying to celebrate this as a victory when a few short years ago you were celebrating leaving such institutions and how deluded and misinformed are you, we are an associate member now taking whatever the EU decides to give us, how's that for taking orders |
Rubbish. Business needs to take hold and government needs to provide an investment climate.
Is that what you want? Taking orders from Brussels?
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07-09-2023, 14:41
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Re: Britain outside the EU
Wow, this blew since my last post!
Many have noted that rejoining Horizon and Copernicus is a restoration of what we already had. However this isn’t wholly the case because of the stopping of freedom of movement so UK scientists are limited to no more than 90 days in the Schengen Zone per 180 days and vice versa.
Of course, most countries have a skilled worker visa system like the UKs Tier 2 visa but these can be expensive and onerous to get with the process getting much more expensive and onerous if you have dependents. This is particularly true for scientists coming to the UK.
But hey, it’s a good start anyway! While we’re here, could we please have Erasmus back too?
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07-09-2023, 15:24
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Re: Britain outside the EU
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Yes - and they have failed there. Useless government but no reason to have remained in the EU and under eventual rule from Brussels.
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In the realms of the bleedin’ obvious for this context, I shouldn’t have to waste effort with further elucidation.
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So, you've actually got no idea, then, just another vague meaningless sound bite...
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07-09-2023, 16:41
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Re: Britain outside the EU
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While we’re here, could we please have Erasmus back too?
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Not under the current regime but I wonder if the next government, likely headed up by Starmer, will re-join it?
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07-09-2023, 16:56
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Re: Britain outside the EU
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Not under the current regime but I wonder if the next government, likely headed up by Starmer, will re-join it?
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It is truly a great opportunity for students. I didn’t take part wayyyy back in the day as my degree was a ‘thin sandwich’ course with three work placements anyway but I supervised some Erasmus students later on and the scheme was great.
Working or studying abroad is such a good growth opportunity for young adults and I would always encourage it. My daughter is currently looking at universities for next year and courses which offer a years work or study abroad are very high up on the list.
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07-09-2023, 22:52
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Re: Britain outside the EU
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So, you've actually got no idea, then, just another vague meaningless sound bite...
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Not at all and any reasonable person would fully understand my meaning without the verbosity you pretend to demand.
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07-09-2023, 23:01
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Not at all and any reasonable person would fully understand my meaning without the verbosity you pretend to demand.
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Still a "no", then…
btw, amusing that you accuse someone of verbosity, just after you posted
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It’s only an effort if you don’t have an easily available answer… 
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07-09-2023, 23:13
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Re: Britain outside the EU
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It is truly a great opportunity for students. I didn’t take part wayyyy back in the day as my degree was a ‘thin sandwich’ course with three work placements anyway but I supervised some Erasmus students later on and the scheme was great.
Working or studying abroad is such a good growth opportunity for young adults and I would always encourage it. My daughter is currently looking at universities for next year and courses which offer a years work or study abroad are very high up on the list.
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My daughter studied French (for some strange reason) and took an Erasmus year in La Réunion. A brilliant scheme. If only the EU has been a FTA + Erasmus + Horizon and not subject to the creeping Brussels power grab, we might not have had good reason to leave the EU.
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Still a "no", then…
btw, amusing that you accuse someone of verbosity, just after you posted
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Wrong again. The bleedin' obvious doesn't need a lot of effort.
Give up.
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