Child grooming gang found guilty

[Escapee]

Originally Posted by Russ

I've been saying that all along.



Even though there's little (or anything?) to suggest the 'majority' are Muslim, the fact that some of them might be has also not been in dispute. The issue here is with this incorrect assertion that they ALL are, and that all Muslims view white British women the same way.

I'm only picking up on the part discussing how white women are viewed, and I think it's a known that muslims in general view white women as having 'no morals' or 'easy'. This view is not confined to those muslims who go out looking for women for a leg over.

The opinion that white women are easy is also generally shared by black african men and women. The daughters of these families are usually brought up under stricter control than daughters in white families.

My partners daughter who is black, never gets any pestering from asian guys when she is out in clubs with her friends. Her white friends though are subject to being mauled by asians guys looking for a quick fun time.

I believe that white women in general having lower moral standards, coupled with being offered something a bit different means they are much easier prey for non white males. Male black relatives of my partner who are of the going out chasing women age also choose white women for some fun because they are easy.

When they are ready to settle down they generally choose a black woman for obvious reasons.

[Russ]

Originally Posted by Nidge41

How the hell can you keep denying the fact that Asian Child grooming doesn't happen within the Asian circle IE in Taxis, Takeaways etc etc.

This place really has gone down the shite pipe in the last few years.

Locations in the uk of Asian grooming gangs, paedophila and sexual exploitation



https://maps.google.com/maps/ms?msid...6&source=embed

Fixed that for you.

Originally Posted by Escapee

I'm only picking up on the part discussing how white women are viewed, and I think it's a known that muslims in general view white women as having 'no morals' or 'easy'. This view is not confined to those muslims who go out looking for women for a leg over.

The opinion that white women are easy is also generally shared by black african men and women. The daughters of these families are usually brought up under stricter control than daughters in white families.

My partners daughter who is black, never gets any pestering from asian guys when she is out in clubs with her friends. Her white friends though are subject to being mauled by asians guys looking for a quick fun time.

I believe that white women in general having lower moral standards, coupled with being offered something a bit different means they are much easier prey for non white males. Male black relatives of my partner who are of the going out chasing women age also choose white women for some fun because they are easy.

When they are ready to settle down they generally choose a black woman for obvious reasons.

A depressing commentary on our society and its crumbling morality, with rather a ring of truth to it, I fear.

Originally Posted by Nidge41

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How the hell can you keep denying the fact that Muslim Child grooming doesn't happen within the Muslim circle IE in Taxis, Takeaways etc etc.

This place really has gone down the shite pipe in the last few years.

Locations in the uk of Muslim grooming gangs, paedophila and sexual exploitation



https://maps.google.com/maps/ms?msid...6&source=embed

I am denying your assertion that all Muslims think/act that way (by being clandestine, to quote you).

[Nidge41]

Originally Posted by Russ

Fixed that for you.

You don't have to fix anything.

At a conference in Bradford in May to unveil the Community Alliance Against Sexual Exploitation, Chief Superintendent Angela Williams, commander of the Airedale and North Bradford police division, said the tally of suspected predators now stood at 90 arrests in the last six months.

http://www.thetelegraphandargus.co.u..._predators___/

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Originally Posted by Hugh

I am denying your assertion that all Muslims think/act that way (by being clandestine, to quote you).

They are clandestine when it comes to their secret child sex rings.

[Russ]

Originally Posted by Nidge41

You don't have to fix anything.

At a conference in Bradford in May to unveil the Community Alliance Against Sexual Exploitation, Chief Superintendent Angela Williams, commander of the Airedale and North Bradford police division, said the tally of suspected predators now stood at 90 arrests in the last six months.

http://www.thetelegraphandargus.co.u..._predators___/

You do realise that article doesn't mention Muslims?

They are clandestine when it comes to their secret child sex rings.

Erm....aren't all sex offenders like that?

[Nidge41]

Originally Posted by Russ

You do realise that article doesn't mention Muslims?



Erm....aren't all sex offenders like that?

There's no way you typed that with a straight face . None at all.

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Originally Posted by Russ

You do realise that article doesn't mention Muslims?



Erm....aren't all sex offenders like that?

This does, http://www.yorkshirepost.co.uk/news/...angs-1-5653228

http://www.thetimes.co.uk/tto/news/u...cle3765173.ece

[Russ]

Originally Posted by Nidge41

There's no way you typed that with a straight face . None at all.

I have no idea, I don't have a mirror on my phone so I couldn't tell you.

Originally Posted by Nidge41

This does, http://www.yorkshirepost.co.uk/news/...angs-1-5653228

http://www.thetimes.co.uk/tto/news/u...cle3765173.ece

Excellent, you've managed to find 2 articles that directly involve and mention Muslims.

[TheDaddy]

Originally Posted by Russ

OK compare that one person to the 20 or 30 (I never felt the need to count them but those would be around about accurate figures) Muslims I knew when I lived in Leicester. None of them displayed anything of the attitude you're talking about.

Funnily enough a Muslim guy asked the woman I'm sort of going out with the other day to marry him, she said he was creepy, only just met him as well, doesn't mean anything of course, just saying, dare say there's creeps, pervs and morons from all races, creeds and colours.

[Nidge41]

Originally Posted by Russ

I have no idea, I don't have a mirror on my phone so I couldn't tell you.



Excellent, you've managed to find 2 articles that directly involve and mention Muslims.

http://www.oldham-chronicle.co.uk/ne...nto-girls-arms

[Russ]

Yes, an Asian man found guilty of a sex attack and whilst not a sex gang (as is the thread topic) thank you for helping to back up the point I've been trying to make to you.

It only took nearly 24 hours!

[Nidge41]

Originally Posted by Russ

Yes, an Asian man found guilty of a sex attack and whilst not a sex gang (as is the thread topic) thank you for helping to back up the point I've been trying to make to you.

It only took nearly 24 hours!

Ermmm some people have to work for a living.

I think you're actually caricaturising yourself. I've tried debating the points but you can't seem to accept what is right in front of your nose. Even Muslim community leaders have accepted that there is an issue. It isn't just a matter of the community hiding them. There is a cultural issue with gangs of Asian men abusing young white women. You seem to live in a theoretical world and it is quite amusing to look at.

[Russ]

OK let's look at all this:

You said that all Muslims look down on white British women, calling them 'trash' etc. You have nothing to back that up with so it's just opinion, not a fact.

You said all Asians are Muslims. This is clearly untrue, something you realised was wrong and backed down from later.

You said all these sex gangs have been by Muslims. I asked you to prove this: all you've done is link to SOME cases where the men were Muslims (I have never said or implied that there are no Muslim sex offenders by the way) and to some far-right wing websites where the word 'Muslim' is included in the headline but not in the actual article itself. Some of what you link to doesn't even mention the word 'Muslim', instead just 'Asian' - which although I'm sure it wasn't your intention, backs up my point quite nicely.

So far you have done nothing to back up your assertion. When I (and others) have pointed this out you simply imply we are in denial.

If you can show me where in each of these Asian sex gang cases it states unequivocally that they are Muslim I'll happily admit I'm wrong and will take your side.

[Nidge41]

Originally Posted by Russ

OK let's look at all this:

You said that all Muslims look down on white British women, calling them 'trash' etc. You have nothing to back that up with so it's just opinion, not a fact.

You said all Asians are Muslims. This is clearly untrue, something you realised was wrong and backed down from later.

You said all these sex gangs have been by Muslims. I asked you to prove this: all you've done is link to SOME cases where the men were Muslims (I have never said or implied that there are no Muslim sex offenders by the way) and to some far-right wing websites where the word 'Muslim' is included in the headline but not in the actual article itself. Some of what you link to doesn't even mention the word 'Muslim', instead just 'Asian' - which although I'm sure it wasn't your intention, backs up my point quite nicely.

So far you have done nothing to back up your assertion. When I (and others) have pointed this out you simply imply we are in denial.

If you can show me where in each of these Asian sex gang cases it states unequivocally that they are Muslim I'll happily admit I'm wrong and will take your side.

Pakistanis are Muslims.

Maybe your skipping round the issue? http://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/400...iberal-cowards



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some *Muslim men (NOT necessarily Asian men) are *targeting young white girls to abuse and degrade – can the problem be tackled.

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news...#ixzz2TpKIULQs

[Russ]

Originally Posted by Nidge41

Pakistanis are Muslims.

Maybe, maybe not but that's not what you said is it? You said:

Asians are Muslims.

Let me tell you how I know that's not right. My OH is Indian (that's her in my avatar), as her family are as well, obviously.

None of them is Muslim.

Originally Posted by Nidge41

Maybe your skipping round the issue?

In the same way you're dodging all my issues and questions?

some *Muslim men (NOT necessarily Asian men) are *targeting young white girls to abuse and degrade – can the problem be tackled.

Thank you - so now you finally agree that it's *some* Muslims, not all as you previously said.

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I just asked her if all Pakistanis are Muslim, she said some are but not all. It's like saying all British people are Christian.

You may need to check your facts in this topic a bit more thoroughly, it's starting to become as informative as an EDL forum.