2010 General Election: The Cable Forum Exit Poll

[Flyboy]

This has got to be the most hilarious excuse for losing a vote, ever:

Mr Griffin, 51, also suggested that Labour was going to win unfairly purely because they had managed to encourage a high turnout in Barking, which he said disadvantaged the BNP

[TheWatcher]

Originally Posted by Xaccers

Only because more people prefer the other parties.
In at least 54 constituencies they've won with FPTP.
All they have to do is increase their popularity in other areas above the other parties and they'll win the seats.
It's not the FPTP fault they aren't good enough to do that.

But you have to admit that even if the LibDems won every single seat they stood for, they still wouldn't win the election as a whole. How is that fair?

[Flyboy]

Originally Posted by foreverwar

The fact that some man*, who has no connection with the British electorate, who has never even asked them if they want him in the house of Lords, could get to decide who runs the country.....and they talk about electoral reform.

At least the Labour party want to have the opportunity to change that.

The Mirror's estimate was, at best, there would be 21 Old Etonians out of the 300+ MPs - how by any stretch of imagination is that a party made up of Old Etonians?

Most of whom will be in the cabinet. There is not one party who have so many originating from the same school as the Tories. Twenty-one is a huge number in comparison.

In that case, the Labour Party is a party made up of Union Reps........

At least they are more likely to more representative of the voting public than bunch of chinless wonders.

[Xaccers]

Originally Posted by TheWatcher

But you have to admit that even if the LibDems won every single seat they stood for, they still wouldn't win the election as a whole. How is that fair?

Sorry, I only got 2 hours sleep last night, can you explain that to me?

Does the libdem constitution prevent them standing in more than 325 constituencies?

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Originally Posted by Flyboy

Most of whom will be in the cabinet. There is not one party who have so many originating from the same school as the Tories. Twenty-one is a huge number in comparison.

Last time I checked, Eton was considered a rather good place to be educated ("lernin" to you).
Ergo, Etonians generally are at the high end of the academic scale.

You appear to be under the misconception that having intelligent, qualified people running the country is a bad thing.

[TheWatcher]

Originally Posted by Xaccers

Sorry, I only got 2 hours sleep last night, can you explain that to me?

Does the libdem constitution prevent them from standing in more than 325 constituencies?[COLOR="Silver"]

No, of course not. But FPTP is not proportional to the voting percentage. Single Transferable Vote is favoured by the Electoral Reform Society.

[Xaccers]

Originally Posted by TheWatcher

No, of course not. But FPTP is not proportional to the voting percentage. Single Transferable Vote is favoured by the Electoral Reform Society.

So you admit that FPTP isn't actually hindering the LibDems, they're hindering themselves.

[Hom3r]

Toffs in government will look after toffs first, them the small 'uneducated' man last.

By uneducatated I mean those who never attended "Oxford, Cambridge, Eaton etc"

[TheWatcher]

Originally Posted by Xaccers

So you admit that FPTP isn't actually hindering the LibDems, they're hindering themselves.

No, It is hindering them because, under the current system, even if they get more votes than Labour or Conservative, they still get less seats in the House of Commons.

[Pierre]

Originally Posted by Flyboy

At least they are more likely to more representative of the voting public than bunch of chinless wonders.

Well I'm the voting public and I'm certainly not represented by union bigots. I'm also not a chinless wonder and was brought up in a working class family in Liverpool in the 70's and 80's.

You seem to be under the incorrect impression that all tory supporters and party members went to public school, live in stately homes and talk like Boris Johnson.

Sorry to explode your myth. Also growing up in Liverpool during the riots, living on the breadline during the Thatcher era doesn't mean that I should be pre-disposed to to vote Labour.

[Osem]

Originally Posted by Hom3r

Toffs in government will look after toffs first, them the small 'uneducated' man last.

By uneducatated I mean those who never attended "Oxford, Cambridge, Eaton etc"

The gap between the rich 'toffs' at the top and the poor at the bottom has got worse under New Labour so they haven't done much to improve the lot of those for whom you speak at the expense of the privileged few have they..

http://www.thisismoney.co.uk/news/ar...0&in_page_id=2

[Xaccers]

Originally Posted by Hom3r

Toffs in government will look after toffs first, them the small 'uneducated' man last.

By uneducatated I mean those who never attended "Oxford, Cambridge, Eaton etc"

Really? I don't remember having to pay £3000 a year to go to university last time the Tories were in.

Originally Posted by TheWatcher

No, It is hindering them because, under the current system, even if they get more votes than Labour or Conservative, they still get less seats in the House of Commons.

Fewer actually.
As I said, all they have to do is be more popular in more constituencies.
What would you say to adjusting the borders so each constituency had the same population?


In local council news, the uBNP have lost 3 council seats.

[Flyboy]

Originally Posted by Pierre

Well I'm the voting public and I'm certainly not represented by union bigots. I'm also not a chinless wonder and was brought up in a working class family in Liverpool in the 70's and 80's.

You seem to be under the incorrect impression that all tory supporters and party members went to public school, live in stately homes and talk like Boris Johnson.

Sorry to explode your myth. Also growing up in Liverpool during the riots, living on the breadline during the Thatcher era doesn't mean that I should be pre-disposed to to vote Labour.

And then so many Merseysiders disagree, eh.

[Pierre]

Originally Posted by Hom3r

Toffs in government will look after toffs first,

Plenty of toffs and wannabe toffs in the outgoing Labour government.

them the small 'uneducated' man last.

By uneducatated I mean those who never attended "Oxford, Cambridge, Eaton etc"

I consider myself very well educated and I never went to any of those schools.

Do you consider yourself uneducated?

[Hiroki]

Guess it's time to look at how the Conservative government will effect me.

Ah well get your coat Gordon your times come.

[Osem]

Originally Posted by Pierre

Plenty of toffs and wannabe toffs in the outgoing Labour government.

........and that's being very polite...