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Old 11-06-2010, 09:41   #511
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Re: Bring Back Fox Hunting

I've never understood the attitude towards animals when it comes to pest control in this country. It seems the furrier and cuter and domestic the animal looks, the more people are against controlling them. The foxes that frequent my garden come up close to the patio, they hide behind my shed, they sometimes knock my bin over. They certainly prevent me leaving my daughter in the garden on her own to play in her sandpit for more than a couple of minutes.

I have seen ones in the street wandering around like stray dogs. If they were rats no one would have a problem uising a trap on them - (I have killed rats & mice with mouse traps/bait).

As you might have guessed I'm pro cull.
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Old 11-06-2010, 10:26   #512
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Re: Bring Back Fox Hunting

There appears to be conflation between cull and hunt, when (imho) they are completely separate issues, with the only common point being foxy-woxy.
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Re: Bring Back Fox Hunting

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There appears to be conflation between cull and hunt, when (imho) they are completely separate issues, with the only common point being foxy-woxy.
Well I have been informed(though not given definite proof) that fox numbers sort of work them selves out and so there is no need to cull or hunt them..

Not that I believe it seeing as we re still inundated with foxes here.I'm living in a borough boundaried by large MOD properties(Browndown and Ex DEADELUS and with a wildlife and deer conservation area and Lee Golf Course so they aren't strictly urban foxes either.
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Re: Bring Back Fox Hunting

hmm

even if foxes are running wild in urban areas i really cant see it as a big problem most likely they are helping keep the rat population down

in newport ( south wales ) they have been on a get rid of pigeons campaign and been doing really well at it BUT since they have done so we are seening more and more rats in places and times we never saw them before

you mess with nature at your peril

what in any case this has to do with hunting is lost on me hunting has never controlled fox numbers in fact many hunts were breeding ( or helping those foxes they knew of to bring up cubs ) so there were enough to hunt

and ( i will dig out figures if i really have to ) only about 6 to 7% of foxes killed per year were done by hunts any way most are and were killed by trapping shooting or run over by cars

if your really worried about foxes in your garden get some dogs not expect a huge investment in pest control which likely wont make much difference any how
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May wrote: "Fox attacks babies? Sure! And monkeys will fly... out of my butt.

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Yes we can

London Mayor Boris Johnson said councils should "focus on their duties for pest control".

Mr Johnson said foxes were a pest and a menace and could in rare circumstances pose a threat to humans, telling reporters: "Therefore it's right that boroughs should focus on their duties for pest control because as romantic and cuddly as a fox is, it is also a pest."

Seem to remember Dave Cameron said something similar the other day to IIRC.

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/latest/...5875-22319671/
Not much of an comfort really from those two. They are not exactly the foxes' greatest allies, are they.
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Not much of an comfort really from those two. They are not exactly the foxes' greatest allies, are they.
Do you have evidence of that, or are you just assuming they will act a certain way because of their class (which is a form of prejudice)?
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Re: Bring Back Fox Hunting

Just for urban foxes how about BMX instead of horses
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Re: Bring Back Fox Hunting

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Not much of an comfort really from those two. They are not exactly the foxes' greatest allies, are they.
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SAVE ME is a group founded by Brian May to promote decent treatment for animals. We believe that every creature deserves a decent life and a decent death.....

..... The vast majority of decent people believe that it is wrong to cause needless suffering to animals. We cannot stand by and allow Britain to be bullied by a small minority – a minority that cannot let go of its desire to torture innocent animals.

Be aware of this situation, tell everyone you know, and make sure your MP knows that you expect him/her to vote to KEEP THE HUNTING ACT IN PLACE, and work to make it more effective.
Ooops!
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Think he meant BJ the mayor and Dave rather than that old queen....
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Re: Bring Back Fox Hunting

OK - thanks....
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Re: Bring Back Fox Hunting

After all they have been through......

The family whose babies were savaged by a fox in their cots are being given police protection over fears of an attack by animal rights activists.

Terrorists more like imo.
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After all they have been through......

The family whose babies were savaged by a fox in their cots are being given police protection over fears of an attack by animal rights activists.

Terrorists more like imo.
Indeed - absolute ****.
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Do you have evidence of that, or are you just assuming they will act a certain way because of their class (which is a form of prejudice)?
Are you saying that BoJo and Cameron have not supported fox hunting in the past? Where did I refer to their class?

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After all they have been through......

The family whose babies were savaged by a fox in their cots are being given police protection over fears of an attack by animal rights activists.

Terrorists more like imo.
Where have these "attacks" manifested themselves? What is the source of this quote? Do I really need to ask?
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