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Re: The Chronicles of Rishi
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It always surprises me when completely innocent politicians resign.
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Lol lol lol
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21-04-2023, 12:28
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Re: The Chronicles of Rishi
It shocks me that the tail is allowed to wag the dog to death.
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21-04-2023, 12:40
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Re: The Chronicles of Rishi
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It shocks me that the tail is allowed to wag the dog to death.
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Not sure what you mean - could you clarify, please?
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21-04-2023, 13:00
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Re: The Chronicles of Rishi
The civil servants can now walk all over ministers who rebuke them for resisting policy.
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21-04-2023, 13:17
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Re: The Chronicles of Rishi
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The civil servants can now walk all over ministers who rebuke them for resisting policy.
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Funniest post of the day! Well done ..
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21-04-2023, 13:25
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Re: The Chronicles of Rishi
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The civil servants can now walk all over ministers who rebuke them for resisting policy.
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Can they or do ministers just have to avoid being bullying dicks
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21-04-2023, 16:33
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Re: The Chronicles of Rishi
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The civil servants can now walk all over ministers who rebuke them for resisting policy.
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You obviously think bullying is acceptable then?
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21-04-2023, 18:26
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Re: The Chronicles of Rishi
Methinks the bully protests too much. If he's done nothing wrong why resign? He just comes across like a talentless dhead, who will scream if he doesn't get his way. Any other job and he would have been suspended long ago.
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21-04-2023, 18:34
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Re: The Chronicles of Rishi
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Methinks the bully protests too much. If he's done nothing wrong why resign? He just comes across like a talentless dhead, who will scream if he doesn't get his way. Any other job and he would have been suspended long ago.
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My mother worked in the civil service for quite a few years and was a victim of bullying for many years.
She used to come home in tears sometimes.
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21-04-2023, 23:24
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Re: The Chronicles of Rishi
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You obviously think bullying is acceptable then?
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That depends on who is defining it - its another much abused/overused word, again.
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22-04-2023, 04:25
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Re: The Chronicles of Rishi
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You obviously think bullying is acceptable then?
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why don’t you Tory bashers open your eyes and minds rather than go with the group think?
If I was a minister trying to implement government policy, I wouldn’t want to have my efforts frustrated by the civil service. Raab is more or less saying this is what happens (same happened with Priti Patel). The CS in such instances need to be called out in a reasonable manner. If the called out person wants to claim bullying, and like minded colleagues see an opportunity for bringing the minister down, their evidence to the inquiry will be a killer.
You have no idea whether or not Raab crossed the line. But you’ll beliwve the anti-Tory group think and pile in.
No better than a kangaroo court, you and others of you ilk.
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22-04-2023, 07:21
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Re: The Chronicles of Rishi
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why don’t you Tory bashers open your eyes and minds rather than go with the group think?
If I was a minister trying to implement government policy, I wouldn’t want to have my efforts frustrated by the civil service. Raab is more or less saying this is what happens (same happened with Priti Patel). The CS in such instances need to be called out in a reasonable manner. If the called out person wants to claim bullying, and like minded colleagues see an opportunity for bringing the minister down, their evidence to the inquiry will be a killer.
You have no idea whether or not Raab crossed the line. But you’ll beliwve the anti-Tory group think and pile in.
No better than a kangaroo court, you and others of you ilk.
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Did he raise issues in the appropriate manner with either Simon Case or his predecessor?
Dozens, indeed hundreds of Conservative ministers have led departments over the vast majority over the last 40 years without much incident. Raab, and Patel, are the outliers here. Not civil servants who have served Conservative ministers for the vast majority (or indeed, perhaps all) of their careers.
It’s worth noting Rishi Sunak picked the kangaroo.
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22-04-2023, 08:00
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Re: The Chronicles of Rishi
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Did he raise issues in the appropriate manner with either Simon Case or his predecessor?
Dozens, indeed hundreds of Conservative ministers have led departments over the vast majority over the last 40 years without much incident. Raab, and Patel, are the outliers here. Not civil servants who have served Conservative ministers for the vast majority (or indeed, perhaps all) of their careers.
It’s worth noting Rishi Sunak picked the kangaroo.
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In this case, I'm not convinced by what you say, John.
If you take this in the round with the coordinated union strikes, which include the Civil Service in part, and my view that the CS is essentially leftie (nothwithstanding the years of Tory rule), you might give Raab the benefit of the doubt.
Public confidence in bthe government and CS is now fading.
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22-04-2023, 08:08
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Re: The Chronicles of Rishi
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In this case, I'm not convinced by what you say, John.
If you take this in the round with the coordinated union strikes, which include the Civil Service in part, and my view that the CS is essentially leftie (nothwithstanding the years of Tory rule), you might give Raab the benefit of the doubt.
Public confidence in bthe government and CS is now fading.
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I’ll agree public confidence in the Tories is in the toilet. Years of corruption and lies will do that to a political party with it’s pals trousering collective billions at the expense of the taxpayer.
I don’t think anyone, apart from a few Tories howling at the moon, has serious concerns over the ability of the Civil Service to serve this Government or the next.
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22-04-2023, 08:11
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The CS will have no trouble serving Labour, imo.
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