16-12-2018, 14:49
|
#5146
|
Architect of Ideas
Join Date: Dec 2004
Posts: 10,461
|
Re: Brexit
Quote:
Originally Posted by Sephiroth
If I understand you correctly, if she allows a referendum, she has gone turncoat on her oft repeated statements that there is to be no such thing.
|
But she remains committed to her deal, and gets to stiff Rees-Mogg etc because no deal will be off the ballot once Parliament has had a say.
She can hand on heart stare down a TV camera and say she believes this is best for the country, delivers on the referendum result and the only way to achieve this is due to divisions in her party and the opposition is to have public support for it.
Why do you think she has been targeting people directly, and there are Government funded ads on social media “selling” her deal?
|
|
|
16-12-2018, 14:49
|
#5147
|
Woke and proud !
Join Date: Jun 2004
Services: TV, Phone, BB, a wife
Posts: 9,164
|
Re: Brexit
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mick
Screw the corrupted Maastricht treaty in which NOONE had a say on thanks to John Major!!!
So no, I will not tell you again - I am not a EU citizen and I will not accept no-one else telling me I am so cease doing so because it is bloody pointless. If I say I am not an EU citizen, I am not- I am a British and nothing else-end of discussion!
|
Never mind Mick when we import your French printed 'British' passport in 'bleu', you'll be a happy man (thats if it ever gets pass the queues at the ports.... )
|
|
|
16-12-2018, 14:56
|
#5148
|
Still alive and fighting
Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: In the land of beyond and beyond.
Services: XL BB, 3 360 boxes , XL TV.
Posts: 56,338
|
Re: Brexit
Quote:
Originally Posted by Sephiroth
If I understand you correctly, if she allows a referendum, she has gone turncoat on her oft repeated statements that there is to be no such thing.
|
Well she has form as we all know in calling a General Election when she said countless times that there would not be one and then she stated unequivocally that there would be a vote last Tuesday which of course there was not and now she says there will be a vote before the 21st of January which of course they won't be..
__________________
“The only lesson you can learn from history is that it repeats itself”
|
|
|
16-12-2018, 15:00
|
#5149
|
Woke and proud !
Join Date: Jun 2004
Services: TV, Phone, BB, a wife
Posts: 9,164
|
Re: Brexit
Quote:
Originally Posted by denphone
Well she has form as we all know in calling a General Election when she said countless times that there would not be one and then she stated unequivocally that there would be a vote last Tuesday which of course there was not and now she says there will be a vote before the 21st of January which of course they won't be..
|
One thing is true about TM, she listens to no one, which will be her downfall. Bit like the captain of the Titanic....
|
|
|
16-12-2018, 15:05
|
#5150
|
cf.mega poster
Join Date: Dec 2013
Posts: 14,265
|
Re: Brexit
Liam Fox becomes the first Brexiter minister to call for free indicative vote in parliament.
Quote:
If Theresa May's Brexit deal isn't passed by MPs, then Parliament might have to decide what to do next, cabinet minister Liam Fox has said.
The senior Brexiteer said the PM's deal was unlikely to pass through Parliament unless the backstop issue was resolved.
He said one option could be a "free vote" for MPs.
One option being widely suggested is another referendum - but Mr Fox told the Andrew Marr Show this was unlikely and would not "heal division".
|
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-46584654
|
|
|
16-12-2018, 15:06
|
#5151
|
Perfect Soldier
Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: Worthing West Sussex
Age: 67
Services: VM 500M SH3 thingy
in modem mode
XL TV V6 Sony Bravia smart TV and M phone
Posts: 11,012
|
Re: Brexit
Please sign the petition: Leave the EU without a deal in March 2019. to put the pressure on.
__________________
History is much like an endless waltz: The three beats of war, peace and revolution continue on forever.
However history will change with my coronation - Mariemaia Khushrenada
|
|
|
16-12-2018, 15:10
|
#5152
|
cf.mega poster
Join Date: Dec 2013
Posts: 14,265
|
Re: Brexit
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mr K
Never mind Mick when we import your French printed 'British' passport in 'bleu', you'll be a happy man (thats if it ever gets pass the queues at the ports.... )
|
If I was working for the Passport Agency, I wouldn't be instructing the printers Gemalto to remove the words "European Union" for now, given the current uncertainties. They can of course still be blue and be European Union, the current colour is recommended but not obligatory.
|
|
|
16-12-2018, 15:20
|
#5153
|
Architect of Ideas
Join Date: Dec 2004
Posts: 10,461
|
Re: Brexit
Quote:
Originally Posted by 1andrew1
|
As soon as Parliament gets voting for it’s preferences that’s the the game up for Brexit.
|
|
|
16-12-2018, 15:59
|
#5154
|
cf.mega poster
Join Date: Jun 2010
Location: Jarrow Tyne & Wear
Services: V.I.P 120 tivo and v+
Posts: 5,806
|
Re: Brexit
Quote:
Originally Posted by Sephiroth
If I understand you correctly, if she allows a referendum, she has gone turncoat on her oft repeated statements that there is to be no such thing.
|
or her cabinet want one which some are moving for one now
|
|
|
16-12-2018, 16:15
|
#5155
|
NoT 1oF tHe UsUaLSuSpeCtS
Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: DaRk SiDe Of ThE MooN
Services: Hyper-Optic 1Gig
Posts: 645
|
Re: Brexit
Quote:
Originally Posted by heero_yuy
|
Done
|
|
|
16-12-2018, 16:25
|
#5156
|
cf.mega poster
Join Date: Jul 2004
Location: At the Leaving door
Posts: 4,050
|
Re: Brexit
Quote:
Originally Posted by jfman
. . . there are Government funded ads on social media “selling” her deal
|
Really?
My word, that's a sign of desperation if ever I saw one
|
|
|
16-12-2018, 18:47
|
#5157
|
cf.mega poster
Join Date: Dec 2013
Posts: 14,265
|
Re: Brexit
Quote:
Originally Posted by jfman
Attacking Blair gets good headlines and makes her appear strong.
|
This hasn't worked out too well for her. Not only is she being criticised for hypocrisy (she didn't criticise John Major who did the same thing as Blair) but Blair has responded in a reasoned manner.
Quote:
Responding to Mrs May's criticism, Mr Blair said: "To describe such a course as an insult is a strange description of what would be the opportunity for them to instruct Parliament as to how to proceed.
"Far from being anti-democratic, it would be the opposite - as indeed many senior figures in her party from past and present have been saying.
"What is irresponsible however is to try to steamroller MPs into accepting a deal they genuinely think is a bad one with the threat that if they do not fall into line, the government will have the country crash out without a deal."
|
https://news.sky.com/story/blair-and...r-mps-11582978
|
|
|
16-12-2018, 18:56
|
#5158
|
vox populi vox dei
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: the last resort
Services: every thing
Posts: 13,739
|
Re: Brexit
Quote:
Originally Posted by heero_yuy
|
done
__________________
To be or not to be, woke is the question Whether 'tis nobler in the mind to suffer. The slings and arrows of outrageous wokedome, Or to take arms against a sea of wokies. And by opposing end them.
|
|
|
16-12-2018, 19:18
|
#5159
|
Sulking in the Corner
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: RG41
Services: 1 Gbps; Hub 4 MM; ASUS RT-AX88U; Ultimate VOLT. BT Infinity2; Devolo 1200AV
Posts: 11,955
|
Re: Brexit
Quote:
Originally Posted by 1andrew1
|
Responding to Mrs May's criticism, Mr Blair said: "To describe such a course as an insult is a strange description of what would be the opportunity for them to instruct Parliament as to how to proceed."
Pure Blair hypocrisy. The Referendum has instructed Parliament as to how to proceed. But the Parliamentarians have become anti-democratic by not fulfilling the Referendum's mandate.
That you, Andrew, consider Blair's words as "reasoned" condemns you.
__________________
Seph.
My advice is at your risk.
|
|
|
16-12-2018, 19:29
|
#5160
|
Architect of Ideas
Join Date: Dec 2004
Posts: 10,461
|
Re: Brexit
I’m inclined to think Blair is a polarising figure.
People either supported New Labour and got over the Iraq thing, or they didn’t and he was a war criminal. I think the for the audience May is appealing to the vast majority won’t side with Blair under any circumstances.
|
|
|
Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 12 (0 members and 12 guests)
|
|
Posting Rules
|
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts
HTML code is Off
|
|
|
All times are GMT +1. The time now is 14:50.
|