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ceedee · 29-04-2008, 22:18

/ceedee fetches the popcorn...

SimonHickling · 29-04-2008, 22:19

Following #4630 and having received no response in the week(ish) since it was sent I have sent a follow-up

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It's been almost a week since I first inquired about the Phorm system, is there any news of a response?

I note from the webwise.bt.com website that "BT plans technical trials of BT Webwise in April 2008."

Given we are now at the end of April 2008 and your website still reads as above, I can only assume you have gone ahead with the trials. If that is the case BT should have no problems in providing answers to the questions I have posed. It also leads me to assume that it is possible that traffic from my web sites may have been intercepted without my consent. With this in mind, in case the inference from my original mail was not clear, I specifically DO NOT consent to traffic to and from my web sites being intercepted by, or, on behalf of any person or organization and would like to know how you plan to exclude my sites?

Further I wish to make sure you understand that I do not want BT or Phorm to use robots to scan my web-sites and would like to know what agent you use so I can specifically block said agent within my robots.txt files.

I also understand that the Phorm system will be placing cookies purporting to be from my site on the computers of participating users. I am sure this would be in breach of the Computer Misuse Act as that is claiming to be someone you are not (interestingly, something you claim webwise will guard against!).

If I do not hear from you by the end of the week, I shall take this matter further.

popper · 29-04-2008, 22:20

was this mentioned earlyer in the thread, i cant find a link....

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2008/04...ata_amendment/
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Lords defy Government by proposing criminalisation of data rogues

Disclose our info and you'll pay

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Published Tuesday 29th April 2008 09:34 GMT

The House of Lords has proposed making it a criminal offence to disclose personal information intentionally or recklessly. The Lords passed an amendment to the Criminal Justice and Immigration Bill, defeating the Government.

If it is to become law the amendment will need to be approved by MPs in the House of Commons. The Government opposed the amendment but was defeated by 134 votes to 130.

The amendment would make it a criminal offence to "intentionally or recklessly disclose information contained in personal data to another person, repeatedly and negligently allow information to be contained in personal data to be disclosed, or intentionally or recklessly fail to comply with [their] duties".

"Data controllers currently do not face anything like adequate sanctions if they intentionally or recklessly disclose information, or indeed are repeatedly negligent," said Liberal Democrat peer Baroness Miller of Chilthorne Domer, introducing the amendment.
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"Until recently the bill contained a clause that would introduce jail sentences of up to two years for people who steal or sell personal data, but the Government has decided not to activate that clause of the law."
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Miller said that the public could not afford a wait. "Basically the public will have to continue with this lack of protection for at least another year or two, during which time, at the rate of the past 12 months, millions more pieces of data will have gone missing," she said.

The Conservative Party proposed a weaker amendment which would only apply to public bodies or workers on contract to the public sector, but Miller said that it was a false distinction. "Citizens do not mind who lost the data; it is irrelevant to them. What is important is that it is their data that have been sold, lost or left on rubbish heaps and it is they who are affected by it," she said.

The Information Commissioner Richard Thomas has previously called for a law that would punish people or organisations that put other people's personal data at risk. In January the Parliamentary Justice Committee backed Thomas's calls for such a law."

Rchivist · 29-04-2008, 22:35

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Originally Posted by SimonHickling

Following #4630 and having received no response in the week(ish) since it was sent I have sent a follow-up

Which bit of the webwise site are you looking at? I can't find the bit that says April - it now says "shortly" - here
http://webwise.bt.com/webwise/help.php in answer to "when will you be trialling Webwise?"

However - over at the "safe" non webwise.bt.com mirror that I asked BT to create so that webwise averse users could block webwise.bt.com and still find out about the system (it seems to be a bit of a cracked mirror actually) at
http://www.productsandservices.bt.co...icId=24333#WW8
that question has the answer
"BT plans technical trials of BT Webwise in April 2008."

Usual BT competence! Having those two sites running in parallel should be interesting. BT have never been good at synching their information across different portals and platforms.

As I posted above - if they want to give us 24 hours notice of the "April" trials as they promised, then it's going to mean someone burning some midnight oil, because it's nearly time-up.

I smell more retro-fitting and hear the murmur of anxious lawyers saying, wait, wait, wait!

SimonHickling · 29-04-2008, 22:38

http://webwise.bt.com/webwise/help.html

In the same bit "When will you ... ?"

Seems they can't even keep the html and php the same.

vicz · 29-04-2008, 22:38

Lords defy Government by proposing criminalisation of data rogues...
I doubt this is going anywhere, the Govt believes it is just an excuse to beat them up over the infamous 'missing CDs'. Which of course it is.

CaptJamieHunter · 29-04-2008, 22:39

Access has been granted and the offending malicious content removed. The hosting company says that it has banned a range of IP addresses responsible for the hack.

If people would like to check and let me know privately if they get any malware reports I'd be grateful. And thanks to the people who flagged it up too.

Bedtime calls.

JackSon · 29-04-2008, 22:41

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Originally Posted by CaptJamieHunter

Access has been granted and the offending malicious content removed. The hosting company says that it has banned a range of IP addresses responsible for the hack.

If people would like to check and let me know privately if they get any malware reports I'd be grateful. And thanks to the people who flagged it up too.

Bedtime calls.

AVG seems lot happier now m8. site's accessible again. Were those IP addresses russian per chance?

NTLVictim · 29-04-2008, 22:41

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Originally Posted by CaptJamieHunter

The site has been hacked and a script added to the end of the page.

PLEASE tell me there's a trace..

mark777 · 29-04-2008, 22:51

Quote:

Originally Posted by vicz

Lords defy Government by proposing criminalisation of data rogues...
I doubt this is going anywhere, the Govt believes it is just an excuse to beat them up over the infamous 'missing CDs'. Which of course it is.

"Government uses Parliament Act to aid spy-ad company".

Great headline one day.

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I understand the selection process for the recently advertised job at Phorm started today, focusing on practical tests.

But I may be wrong.

Rchivist · 29-04-2008, 23:00

Quote:

Originally Posted by CaptJamieHunter

Access has been granted and the offending malicious content removed. The hosting company says that it has banned a range of IP addresses responsible for the hack.

If people would like to check and let me know privately if they get any malware reports I'd be grateful. And thanks to the people who flagged it up too.

Bedtime calls.

It would be good to know what IP ranges they are banning. (Website access logs?) I'll add them to my own .htaccess file if they haven't already fallen into my bot traps.
And of course a little lookup could be done...

manxminx · 29-04-2008, 23:02

When will the BT trials start? Why has the start date been postponed more than once?

Well, the trials have been on hold while BT investigates alternative opt-out methods that do not require cookies to be placed on users' computers.

See BT to Test Phorm, Search for Cookie Alternatives for more info.

Ali.

CaptJamieHunter · 29-04-2008, 23:12

I'm on autopilot right now folks so trying to do anything that involves engaging certain parts of my brain is a complete non starter. I'm just happy to get the site back up. Annoyed that Barcelona lost but we can't have it all, can we?

When things in the hangar are more sorted I'll have a root through what logs I can find.

Again, thanks to the folk who flagged this up.

Rchivist · 29-04-2008, 23:20

Quote:

Originally Posted by CaptJamieHunter

I'm on autopilot right now folks so trying to do anything that involves engaging certain parts of my brain is a complete non starter. I'm just happy to get the site back up. Annoyed that Barcelona lost but we can't have it all, can we?

When things in the hangar are more sorted I'll have a root through what logs I can find.

Again, thanks to the folk who flagged this up.

Okay - happy landings, and hope there are no wizard prangs! (son of wartime Spitfire pilot)

serial · 30-04-2008, 00:34

Just wondering why the long delay with the videos from the meeting. I was chatting with a video editor friend at the weekend and asked how long it would take to turn around a couple of cameras and a seperate audio source. He told me he would be expected to do it in 2 days.

After the hack on the unofficial release it looks very odd.