ntl Confirms 10Mb Broadband Speed Increase
14-08-2005, 19:20
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Re: ntl Confirms 10Mb Broadband Speed Increase
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There was no fee.
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What about the £25 charge to upgrade? I remember him being charged for it? I myself avoided it as was moving at the time.
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14-08-2005, 19:44
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Re: ntl Confirms 10Mb Broadband Speed Increase
The last upgrade was 100% free. They originally planned a £25 fee but that was quickly dropped. Your friend shouldn't of been charged anything.
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14-08-2005, 20:56
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Re: ntl Confirms 10Mb Broadband Speed Increase
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The last upgrade was 100% free. They originally planned a £25 fee but that was quickly dropped. Your friend shouldn't of been charged anything.
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Then I feel he needs to speak to NTL asap but I doubt this could be corrected?
I shall make double sure he paid, as we have dropped out of touch since he went college.
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14-08-2005, 21:18
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Re: ntl Confirms 10Mb Broadband Speed Increase
Just a comment anyone know the user limits for this new service ( whats the cap).
An when will it arrive do not think it will be out here this year
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14-08-2005, 21:26
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Re: ntl Confirms 10Mb Broadband Speed Increase
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Just a comment anyone know the user limits for this new service ( whats the cap).
An when will it arrive do not think it will be out here this year

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Known information is in the original news article:
http://www.cableforum.co.uk/article/...ed-as-standard
There may be a little more buried in this thread, but the news confirms the basics.
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14-08-2005, 21:36
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Re: ntl Confirms 10Mb Broadband Speed Increase
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Originally Posted by th'engineer
Just a comment anyone know the user limits for this new service ( whats the cap).
An when will it arrive do not think it will be out here this year

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75GB cap and no news yet as of when it will roll....
Sometime before end of 2006....
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14-08-2005, 22:15
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Re: ntl Confirms 10Mb Broadband Speed Increase
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Originally Posted by Myron
Well, if it's anything to go by, there was once a speed increase for everyone and instead of waiting, on the day I navigated to the page where one's speed can be increased and got 2Mb on the day of launch.
I'm curious if it will be done the same way? Either wait for the 10Mb to come or expedite the upgrade.
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i hope your right but im not so sure this time. For the 3mb customers maybe as soon as it starts to be rolled out this may be available but for all customers on the 1mb and 2mb tiers, i doubt they will for them and they will have to wait til next year
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14-08-2005, 22:32
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Re: ntl Confirms 10Mb Broadband Speed Increase
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Originally Posted by Myron
Well, if it's anything to go by, there was once a speed increase for everyone and instead of waiting, on the day I navigated to the page where ones speed can be increased and got 2Mb on the day of launch.
I'm curious if it will be done the same way? Either wait for the 10Mb to come or expedite the upgrade.
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i hope your right but i'm not so sure this time. For the 3mb customers maybe as soon as it starts to be rolled out this may be available but for all customers on the 1mb and 2mb tiers, i doubt they will for them and they will have to wait til next year 
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not everyone (me included), will see that as a problem, my 2Mb connection is fine, just now, I would rather wait & see what the 'shaping' options are, before changing anything, yet
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14-08-2005, 22:34
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Re: ntl Confirms 10Mb Broadband Speed Increase
If the upgrade to 10Mb is the same as the last upgrade it will be available to new customers from the implementation date. The online upgrade page will probably only point to the 10Mb service from that date as well. This would mean that all customers who have equipment capable of receiving 10Mb should be able to upgrade online from day one. AFAIK all the Ambit modems are capable of 10Mb, not sure about older SACM's or Samsung STB's. Anyone know the maximum speed that Samsungs can run at?
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14-08-2005, 23:21
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Re: ntl Confirms 10Mb Broadband Speed Increase
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If the upgrade to 10Mb is the same as the last upgrade it will be available to new customers from the implementation date. The online upgrade page will probably only point to the 10Mb service from that date as well. This would mean that all customers who have equipment capable of receiving 10Mb should be able to upgrade online from day one. AFAIK all the Ambit modems are capable of 10Mb, not sure about older SACM's or Samsung STB's. Anyone know the maximum speed that Samsungs can run at?
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? Why should it be the same?
Its been announced as 'for existing 3MB customers' in the first wave.
It seems to me implementation will then be various, and could then take some time over the numerous speed/areas thereafter, culminating in the new range of options by the end of next year.
Or maybe I mis-interpreted the press release.
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14-08-2005, 23:46
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Re: ntl Confirms 10Mb Broadband Speed Increase
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? Why should it be the same?
Its been announced as 'for existing 3MB customers' in the first wave.
It seems to me implementation will then be various, and could then take some time over the numerous speed/areas thereafter, culminating in the new range of options by the end of next year.
Or maybe I mis-interpreted the press release.
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Which is why I started the post with "If".
You have to ask yourself why implementation is spread over such a lengthy period. Is it because everyone will have to have a SACM and supplies of these is the governing factor?
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14-08-2005, 23:56
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Re: ntl Confirms 10Mb Broadband Speed Increase
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Which is why I started the post with "If".
You have to ask yourself why implementation is spread over such a lengthy period. Is it because everyone will have to have a SACM and supplies of these is the governing factor?
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IF I was implementing a new range of speeds and options to a diverse and complicated collection of subscribers, I would hedge my bets based on the anticipated worst case scenario and add 10% for unforseen problems.
IF I had a base of existing top end subscribers, I would endeavour to prioritise these given that equipment issues are not perceived as an issue.
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15-08-2005, 08:28
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Re: ntl Confirms 10Mb Broadband Speed Increase
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You have to ask yourself why implementation is spread over such a lengthy period. Is it because everyone will have to have a SACM and supplies of these is the governing factor?
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because they want to phase in the upgrade while carefully monitoring the effect of increasing the available bandwidth. if they upgraded everyone to 10mb at the same time it may bring the network to a halt if useage increases dramatically and as the top tier pay the most and are the smallest number of NTL customers, they get it first.
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15-08-2005, 09:15
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Re: ntl Confirms 10Mb Broadband Speed Increase
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Originally Posted by etccarmageddon
because they want to phase in the upgrade while carefully monitoring the effect of increasing the available bandwidth. if they upgraded everyone to 10mb at the same time it may bring the network to a halt if useage increases dramatically and as the top tier pay the most and are the smallest number of NTL customers, they get it first.
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Now then are you taking the michael here, you know that planning and NTL do not come together in the same book never mind sentance.
NTL Engineering do as they are told by sales they dont have any say on what will happen or not. They usually have their numbers limited by cost as well . It will be sell more, over stretch the network and have un happy customers being fobbed off by call centres in India.
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15-08-2005, 09:35
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Re: ntl Confirms 10Mb Broadband Speed Increase
well it's nice to see something like this come along but even my Samsung box runs slow with 2MB BB so going up to 10 MB i don't think it will cope.. i guess full details will come out later but i'd rather have a STB that could cope with the speeds we have ATM..
knowing NTL if we do get a new STB for this will it be specced to cope with higher speeds than 10 MB or will it only be able to cope with 5 MB but old to us as a box that can do 10 MB
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