UK & EU Agree Post-Brexit Trade Deal
09-12-2020, 11:52
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Re: Brexit-Transitional Period Ends 31/12/20
Sir Jim Ratcliffe confirms new vehicle to be made in France
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-55236852
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09-12-2020, 12:04
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Re: Brexit-Transitional Period Ends 31/12/20
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It'll be interesting to see public reaction to the purchase of things French when all this is done. If there's a deal, I and others I know may exercise discretion (Port Salut cheese comes to mind).
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09-12-2020, 12:07
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Re: Brexit-Transitional Period Ends 31/12/20
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It'll be interesting to see public reaction to the purchase of things French when all this is done. If there's a deal, I and others I know may exercise discretion (Port Salut cheese comes to mind).
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Don't see why there would be an impact because they took some car manufacturing away.
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09-12-2020, 12:07
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Re: Brexit-Transitional Period Ends 31/12/20
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More a case of taking over an existing factory, rather than building a new factory.
Also an extra part of the deal is this.
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Under the deal, Ineos will also build Daimler's Smart EQ electric car at the Hambach site and supply parts for Mercedes Benz, as well as producing the Grenadier, inspired by the Land Rover Defender.
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Common sense business decision to take over an existing factory, instead of having all the trouble and expense of building a new one.
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09-12-2020, 12:16
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Re: Brexit-Transitional Period Ends 31/12/20
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More a case of taking over an existing factory, rather than building a new factory.
Also an extra part of the deal is this.
Common sense business decision to take over an existing factory, instead of having all the trouble and expense of building a new one.
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Could have taken over Honda's Swindon factory which is closing. Except of course it's not in the EU.
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Don't see why there would be an impact because they took some car manufacturing away.
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Agreed. Ford sales have kept up despite no UK assembly any more.
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09-12-2020, 12:23
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Re: Brexit-Transitional Period Ends 31/12/20
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Could have taken over Honda's Swindon factory which is closing. Except of course it's not in the EU.
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Agreed. Ford sales have kept up despite no UK assembly any more.
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The Swindon plant isn't due to close until later on next year, which would be too late.
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Daimler, the German company that owns Mercedes, said Ineos would take control of the factory in the coming weeks. No sale price was disclosed. The new vehicle will start being built at Hambach late next year.
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09-12-2020, 12:35
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Re: Brexit-Transitional Period Ends 31/12/20
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The Swindon plant isn't due to close until later on next year, which would be too late.
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Not an issue. Negotiation is always possible in these things. Note the word planned. Wasn't the Smart plant planned to close next year too?
What's not negotiable is whether a UK car plant is in the Customs Union and Single Market.
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09-12-2020, 12:35
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Re: Brexit-Transitional Period Ends 31/12/20
How do we build up Britain’s post-Brexit capabilities if the billionaires who advocated for Brexit won’t build stuff here.
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09-12-2020, 12:40
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Re: Brexit-Transitional Period Ends 31/12/20
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How do we build up Britain’s post-Brexit capabilities if the billionaires who advocated for Brexit won’t build stuff here.
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That's a good question that many would like to see answered. The outlook for manufacturing in a post-Brexit world does not look great.
What we are seeing though is growth in film and TV studios eg Elstree, Reading, Dagenham and Liverpool.
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09-12-2020, 12:41
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Re: Brexit-Transitional Period Ends 31/12/20
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How do we build up Britain’s post-Brexit capabilities if the billionaires who advocated for Brexit won’t build stuff here.
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This is a reasonable article giving some of the reasons why.
https://www.forbes.com/sites/davidda...h=4cf2e271276c
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09-12-2020, 12:49
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Re: Brexit-Transitional Period Ends 31/12/20
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Interesting, thanks for sharing.
Maybe in a post-Brexit world we'll focus less on farming, fishing, manufacturing and the City and more on the creative arts and tourism. That would leave quite a few people stranded with redundant skills though.
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09-12-2020, 12:58
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Re: Brexit-Transitional Period Ends 31/12/20
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Not an issue. Negotiation is always possible in these things. Note the word planned. Wasn't the Smart plant planned to close next year too?
What's not negotiable is whether a UK car plant is in the Customs Union and Single Market.
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Honda said the date of closure was "set in stone" for July 2021 in order to have "clarity".
The French plant is not only still up and running, INEOS have taken over the existing contracts to supply cars and parts produced there. It's making money right now, as opposed to sometime never in Wales.
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09-12-2020, 13:04
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Re: Brexit-Transitional Period Ends 31/12/20
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Don't see why there would be an impact because they took some car manufacturing away.
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Macron comes to mind and his attitude to the UK.
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09-12-2020, 13:04
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Re: Brexit-Transitional Period Ends 31/12/20
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Honda said the date of closure was "set in stone" for July 2021 in order to have "clarity".
The French plant is not only still up and running, INEOS have taken over the existing contracts to supply cars and parts produced there. It's making money right now, as opposed to sometime never in Wales.
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Swindon is still up and running. INEOS could have taken over the existing contracts to supply Honda. I'm sure the British workers would have preferred jobs instead of "clarity" but their jobs seem of little importance to you.
Smart is not making money. That's why Mercedes-Benz sold a 50% stake in the company to Geely and wanted rid of the French factory.
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