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Re: Reform UK's chronicles
Well, Richard, in the 2024 GE, it was a case of "anyone but the Tories". .
The lefties have nowhere to go other than Labour. Others, particularly non-lefties, would have voted Reform or Lib-Dem.
You mentioned the offer that parties make at a GE. You'll recall that everything that Labour offered was "fully costed". And, here we are.
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04-06-2025, 14:25
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Re: Reform UK's chronicles
Bunching Lib-Dems (who gained 61 seats) and Reform UK (who gained 5 seats) together as attracting "non-lefties" is quite a stretch…
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04-06-2025, 14:31
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Re: Reform UK's chronicles
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Bunching Lib-Dems (who gained 61 seats) and Reform UK (who gained 5 seats) together as attracting "non-lefties" is quite a stretch…
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Yeah - thinking about it. Lib-Dems embrace a good chunk of lefties who can't bring themselves to vote Labour.
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04-06-2025, 14:38
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Re: Reform UK's chronicles
Funnily enough, perusing the HoC library info on the 2024 Election (as one does  ), this snippet seemed apposite…
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How many times were Reform and the Greens in second place?
Reform came second place in 98 constituencies. In 89 of these cases, it was second to Labour. 60 of these were in the north of England and 13 were in Wales.
In comparison, the Brexit Party came in second place in three constituencies in 2019, while UKIP came second in 120 constituencies in 2015.
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Quite different results for Nigel’s Party at different times…
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04-06-2025, 14:44
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Re: Reform UK's chronicles
Early days, but Farage (if he hasn't peaked) may have got it right this time.
However, IIRC, in 2019, the Brexit Party played tactically, not standing in constituencies where Boris was expected to win. Hence not coming second so often.
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04-06-2025, 15:14
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Re: Reform UK's chronicles
They stood in around half the Constituencies…
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04-06-2025, 16:00
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Re: Reform UK's chronicles
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You don't happen to run a website for affordable, quality marital aids by any chance?
There's a certain familiarity about this.... 
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No, Russ, that’s a straw man, and you *don’t* get away with that!
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04-06-2025, 17:31
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Re: Reform UK's chronicles
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Well, Richard, in the 2024 GE, it was a case of "anyone but the Tories". .
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Oooo, somebody took that so personally they can’t let go
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No, Russ, that’s a straw man, and you *don’t* get away with that! 
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No, that’s just your opinion. My opinion is fact
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05-06-2025, 17:40
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Re: Reform UK's chronicles
Zia Yusuf resigns as Reform UK chairman
https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cq54p9epdg6o
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Zia Yusuf has resigned as the chairman of Reform UK, saying "I no longer believe working to get a Reform government elected is a good use of my time".
In a post on social media, external, Yusuf did not expand further on his reasons for stepping down.
However, it comes after he said it was "dumb" for the party's newest MP to call on Sir Keir Starmer to ban the burka.
In a post on X, Yusuf wrote: "11 months ago I became chairman of Reform. I've worked full time as a volunteer to take the party from 14 to 30% [in national polls], quadrupled its membership and delivered historic electoral results.
"I no longer believe working to get a Reform government elected is a good use of my time, and hereby resign the office."
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Some "interesting" replies in his Twitter feed to this announcement
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An ethnically non-native person should NEVER be in an elected position of power.
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I think you should resign from being in this country at all.
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Foreigners* can be remarkably graceless at times, can’t they?
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* He was born in Bellshill, just outside Glasgow
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05-06-2025, 17:45
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Re: Reform UK's chronicles
Idiots.
It's good to see the right isn't immune to letting infighting on pet issues no one else cares about derail their bid for power. He is right that it's dumb for Reform to be talking about banning the burka because it's not anyone's main concern and makes you look like cranks. It's just like Corbyn's Labour in being too indulgent of your base.
Every British Party should remember that their membership is essentially nuts and should be ignored as much as feasibly possible.
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05-06-2025, 18:41
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Re: Reform UK's chronicles
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Idiots.
It's good to see the right isn't immune to letting infighting on pet issues no one else cares about derail their bid for power. He is right that it's dumb for Reform to be talking about banning the burka because it's not anyone's main concern and makes you look like cranks. It's just like Corbyn's Labour in being too indulgent of your base.
Every British Party should remember that their membership is essentially nuts and should be ignored as much as feasibly possible.
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obviously he want's to wear the Burka and is a bit miffed that pochin want's it banned
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05-06-2025, 18:46
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Re: Reform UK's chronicles
Why are people so insecure. Is it because their own citizenship is at risk with the head of state welcoming people of all faith, creed etc. that's hardly foreign looking persons issue. Leave if you don't like it. HMPs are full!
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05-06-2025, 20:04
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Re: Reform UK's chronicles
Never mind the the burka. They should ban anyone over 50 wearing shorts. A much more important issue.
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05-06-2025, 20:08
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Re: Reform UK's chronicles
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Never mind the the burka. They should ban anyone over 50 wearing shorts. A much more important issue.
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Hey! My legs are sexy as ****
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05-06-2025, 21:23
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Re: Reform UK's chronicles
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Zia Yusuf resigns as Reform UK chairman
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