U.S President: Donald Trump

It would appear that Trump has bottled it .He has refused to attend the annual White House Correspondents' Association dinner ,an event that traditionally includes a light hearted 'roast' of the sitting president .It would appear that despite attending the dinner several times in the past and saying he loves it Trumps sense of humour does not extend to people making fun of him

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-39093434

[ianch99]

Originally Posted by Kursk

Me too, especially those pompous brats at the BBC. If their bias continues, the compulsory requirement to financially support them will become even more of an issue.

Well, at least you both admit you are against liberal thinking:

liberal: willing to respect or accept behaviour or opinions different from one's own; open to new ideas.

I guess we have known this for a while now ..

[pip08456]

Originally Posted by ianch99

Well, at least you both admit you are against liberal thinking:

Unfortunately the insanity of "political correctness" has changed that definition.

[papa smurf]

A libtard wants to live in a fantasy world (in which life is the way that they WISH IT WAS) as opposed to dealing with life the way it actually is.

Originally Posted by pip08456

Unfortunately the insanity of "political correctness" has changed that definition.

Correct, liberal now has new meanings, let's start with not accepting democracy.

[ianch99]

Originally Posted by Mick

Correct, liberal now has new meanings, let's start with not accepting democracy.

In your mind, yes, In reality, no.

If you fail to accept that anyone who disagrees with you can have a valid point of view then you will see, like Trump does, enemies all around. What is, to most objective observers, a broad church of media opinion is to Trump and his alt-right followers a conspiracy of lies and fabrication.

For God's sake, he even banned the Daily Mail from the informal press briefing!

When you get to this point in your perception of reality, then yes, you will see life through a very different lens. This allows you to justify many things that range from just bad manners to opinions that are, on a number of levels, plain disturbing.

Trump and more importantly Bannon are using excuses of media bias, political correctness, fear of Muslims, globalisation, etc. to push through an agenda that would be, to people voting in past elections, an anametha.

We are at a point where the US citizens either allow the alt-right, protectionist & nationalist agenda to play out with some very alarming scenarios or they try and engage through peaceful protest together with the gradual erosion of Republican majority in the House in the 2018 elections and try to reduce and/or stop some of the more damaging policies that could be put forward.

Let's hope that they are successful since what Trump does in the US *will* impact us and the rest of the world.

[1andrew1]

Originally Posted by ianch99

In your mind, yes, In reality, no.

If you fail to accept that anyone who disagrees with you can have a valid point of view then you will see, like Trump does, enemies all around. What is, to most objective observers, a broad church of media opinion is to Trump and his alt-right followers a conspiracy of lies and fabrication.

For God's sake, he even banned the Daily Mail from the informal press briefing!

When you get to this point in your perception of reality, then yes, you will see life through a very different lens. This allows you to justify many things that range from just bad manners to opinions that are, on a number of levels, plain disturbing.

Trump and more importantly Bannon are using excuses of media bias, political correctness, fear of Muslims, globalisation, etc. to push through an agenda that would be, to people voting in past elections, an anametha.

We are at a point where the US citizens either allow the alt-right, protectionist & nationalist agenda to play out with some very alarming scenarios or they try and engage through peaceful protest together with the gradual erosion of Republican majority in the House in the 2018 elections and try to reduce and/or stop some of the more damaging policies that could be put forward.

Let's hope that they are successful since what Trump does in the US *will* impact us and the rest of the world.

A very thoughtful post, thanks for summarising things so well.

There are aspects of trump that worry me but I'm also worried by the fact so many people all over the west are being left behind in this headlong globalist\new liberal movement that being honest benefits a very few and damages a hell of a lot more. Trump and brexit are the clearest signs of this and they are the start not the end i think unless there is acceptence by the globalists that things have gone too fast in a bad direction in a decade we will look back to now as a good time. No cause or system that leaves so many behind should be supported or pursued, guess we will see if the message is getting through or things have to continue getting worse.

[Pierre]

It wasn't a Native American, it was a guy from India, if you were trying to make a joke when someone has lost their life, it's in very poor taste.

Never stopped Frankie Boyle or other left leaning comics when it suits them.

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Originally Posted by martyh

It would appear that Trump has bottled it .He has refused to attend the annual White House Correspondents' Association dinner ,an event that traditionally includes a light hearted 'roast' of the sitting president .It would appear that despite attending the dinner several times in the past and saying he loves it Trumps sense of humour does not extend to people making fun of him

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-39093434

Except I doubt it would be very" light hearted"

[Ramrod]

Originally Posted by Hugh

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-36367246

The BBC (British Bullsh*t Corporation) would claim that. We were not told of the true and full extent of the EECs political aims at that time, It was sold to us as a purely trade membership.

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Originally Posted by Mick

Correct, liberal now has new meanings, let's start with not accepting democracy.

The countless demonstrations, many riots and the visceral outpouring of toddler grade angst and frustration bear testimony to that statement

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Originally Posted by 1andrew1

A very thoughtful post, thanks for summarising things so well.

In your echo chamber

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Originally Posted by ianch99

If you fail to accept that anyone who disagrees with you can have a valid point of view

That is amazingly blind. Pie (one of your lefty friends) tells it like it is link. You liberals really can't accept liability for closing down debate, can you?

[Osem]

Originally Posted by Mick

Correct, liberal now has new meanings, let's start with not accepting democracy.

I think it's called selective liberalism. They're liberal when it suits and quite the opposite when they feel like it.

[1andrew1]

Originally Posted by RizzyKing

There are aspects of trump that worry me...

What aspects of Trump worry you?

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Originally Posted by passingbat

Why Brexit and Trump are so important. Standing for the Nation state against the globalist agenda.

Yet more evidence of Trump's globalist alignment is shown by the appointment of Bilderberg Committee Member Peter Thiel as a key adviser to Donald Trump.
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/wo...-a7600471.html
http://www.bilderbergmeetings.org/st...committee.html

Main aspect of concern is his single minded way of viewing things that can be an asset in business and a detriment in the political world and trump needs to either transition faster or slow down. I don't think he's a racist but he isn't very good at framing his views in the political way we have got used too and i think that's his biggest problem at the minute he's continuing to behave as he did in business and it doesn't work on the political leader stage he is now on and his frustration may be coming from the fact he's been surrounded by people in business that are familiar with him but now he is dealing in another type of world and it's creating the issue's we see.

As much as many of us loathe the political class we have now we have gotten used to the polished slick presentation of it and trump isn't accustomed to dealing with the level of scrutiny he now finds himself dealing with.

Originally Posted by Pierre

Never stopped Frankie Boyle or other left leaning comics when it suits them.

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Except I doubt it would be very" light hearted"

Not sure why you would want to be seen in a similar vein to Boyle, the bloke is a turd in my opinion. (And that's my polite word for him)

[passingbat]

Originally Posted by 1andrew1

Yet more evidence of Trump's globalist alignment

As I've said previously, that trump has some Goldman Sachs representatives was a concern. This would be in the same category.

But to infer that Trump is a Globalist is nonsense. It was obvious from the get-go that the BBC were very anti Trump, so I decided to find out what Trump was actually saying, to make up my own mind on his policies.

His campaign speeches, and his speeches since then are readily available on Youtube, of which I watched a good number of in full.

No one listening to those speeches could get even a glint of a globalist agenda. His emphasis on one to one trade deals is a good example. One of the main ways globalism is 'back-doored' is multinational trade deals. which bring multinational laws with them. Trump is against those deals.

I loved this bit from his CPAC speech (44 minutes in) re globalism.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dXWBcDz3Y68


Trust me, I will be monitoring President Trump. He has made a lot of promises, and I'm as keen as anyone to make sure he keeps them. The only policy areas I don't have an opinion on is health care and taxation, simply because I don't know enough about the USA in these areas. That still leaves me a lot to monitor though.