25-01-2005, 11:21
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Re: [Merged] *ALL* ntl Cap Discussion In Here Please.
At least the newsgroups actually WORK on other ISP's though. I've had nothing but trouble with newsgropus on ntl, and so have a lot of other people. Also, you can access newsgroups from any ISP, if you sign up to a newsgroup provider, or get a password from somewhere. :-D
ntl don't value ANY customers. Not many big businesses do.
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25-01-2005, 11:44
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#467
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Re: [Merged] *ALL* ntl Cap Discussion In Here Please.
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Originally Posted by DieDieMyDarling
At least the newsgroups actually WORK on other ISP's though. I've had nothing but trouble with newsgropus on ntl, and so have a lot of other people. Also, you can access newsgroups from any ISP, if you sign up to a newsgroup provider, or get a password from somewhere. :-D
ntl don't value ANY customers. Not many big businesses do.
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Since the new newsservers were brought online about a year ago I have hardly had a blip in the service and retention and completion has been FAR better and I'm a heavy downloader, so I don't know what problems you're talking about. Perhaps you can tell me what the problems were? As far as other ISPs are concerned a working newsserver with nothing on it is of no use to anybody.
Yes, I know you can access newsgroups with any ISP. I've been with Easynews for a couple of years (use them for fills, stuff I missed etc) and would recommend them unreservedly. Of course you have to pay for them unless you use somebody else's password like you.
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25-01-2005, 12:01
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Re: [Merged] ntl "cap"-*ALL* Discussion In Here Please.
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Originally Posted by Mauldor
The last Cap when it first came in, I got rid of Tv Box thing + all channel and switched phone from NTL to BT. I kept Cable modem and the theory was if I get "told off" for using my connection to much, i would ditch that too. So basically it may not seem like many left which they probably never as nothing got enfoced but if they bring in a hard cap (which they will i think) then expect a lot more to leave...Basically people wont leave until something happens...which is a fair point
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Well, maybe people leaving is the best way to get NTL to listen. They sure as hell won't listen to threads like this..
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actually Sweden is poorer than the UK...
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which means by definition England is not richer than Sweden 
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 Eh?
How does that mean "by definition England is not richer than Sweden"?
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25-01-2005, 13:58
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Re: [Merged] ntl "cap"-*ALL* Discussion In Here Please.
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Originally Posted by scastle
Well, maybe people leaving is the best way to get NTL to listen. They sure as hell won't listen to threads like this.."?
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Have they ever listened about cap issues, remember Bill Goodland customers do not understand technical stuff
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25-01-2005, 14:05
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Re: [Merged] ntl "cap"-*ALL* Discussion In Here Please.
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Originally Posted by scastle
 Eh?
How does that mean "by definition England is not richer than Sweden"?
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ok... getting quite  now...
facts:
1. Sweden is richer than the UK
2. England is part of the UK
therefore, England cannot be as rich as the UK (as it is part of it) and as Sweden is richer than the UK, it must also be richer than England
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25-01-2005, 14:10
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Re: [Merged] *ALL* ntl Cap Discussion In Here Please.
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Originally Posted by purenuman
It's to entice new customers rather than reward them because they value them more 
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I recon us existing customers will be given a 'special' offer of a free upgrade which will be one of those offers that expires and then re-appears!
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25-01-2005, 17:41
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Re: [Merged] *ALL* ntl Cap Discussion In Here Please.
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Originally Posted by etccarmageddon
I recon us existing customers will be given a 'special' offer of a free upgrade which will be one of those offers that expires and then re-appears!
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Its expired.
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25-01-2005, 19:17
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Re: [Merged] ntl "cap"-*ALL* Discussion In Here Please.
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Originally Posted by monkeybreath
ok... getting quite  now...
facts:
1. Sweden is richer than the UK
2. England is part of the UK
therefore, England cannot be as rich as the UK (as it is part of it) and as Sweden is richer than the UK, it must also be richer than England

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..Read your original post!
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25-01-2005, 19:19
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Re: [Merged] *ALL* ntl Cap Discussion In Here Please.
I really can't believe you people are all still going round in circles discussing the same old points (of which there are currently very few anyway)
ntl really must be laughing their socks off....
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25-01-2005, 19:25
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Re: [Merged] *ALL* ntl Cap Discussion In Here Please.
The answer is simple - the mods have decided to give up closing 'cap' threads. It's easier to just merge them all into one (actually two, as the 'speed increase' thread is pretty much the same), then those of us who are bored stiff of the going round in circles don't post repetitive 'zzzzz' comments.
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25-01-2005, 19:30
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Re: [Merged] *ALL* ntl Cap Discussion In Here Please.
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The answer is simple
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What was the question??
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Originally Posted by JohnHorb
the mods have decided to give up closing 'cap' threads. It's easier to just merge them all into one (actually two, as the 'speed increase' thread is pretty much the same), then those of us who are bored stiff of the going round in circles don't post repetitive 'zzzzz' comments.
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Correct, we won't allow a 'new' thread to start as there is nothing new to say.
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25-01-2005, 19:36
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Re: [Merged] *ALL* ntl Cap Discussion In Here Please.
Perhaps we could have 5 threads about the upgrade for the cheapskates on the bottom tier, 30 for us sensible moderate types in the middle, 40 for the posers with the fat pipes ...
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25-01-2005, 19:39
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Re: [Merged] *ALL* ntl Cap Discussion In Here Please.
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Originally Posted by cookie_365
Perhaps we could have 5 threads about the upgrade for the cheapskates on the bottom tier, 30 for us sensible moderate types in the middle, 40 for the posers with the fat pipes ... 
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Or perhaps I could just close this thread until there actually is something to discuss-I.E. details of caps/limitations/port throttling etc etc etc......
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25-01-2005, 20:08
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Re: [Merged] *ALL* ntl Cap Discussion In Here Please.
You'd be accused for working for ntl if you made such a bad decision. :P
The thread is good, it gives people a chance to moan and whinge, and get things off their chest. While we wait for ntl to actually give us some information!
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25-01-2005, 21:24
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Re: [Merged] *ALL* ntl Cap Discussion In Here Please.
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Originally Posted by purenuman
It's to entice new customers rather than reward them because they value them more 
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Just phone up NTL, tell them you think it's rubbish and you want to leave, and they will give it to you for free. Any time you try to cancel anything, they give it to you for free.
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Originally Posted by Chrysalis
including upload bandwidth since capping is up+down
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It's going to be nearly impossible for NTL users to download anything, since most BitTorrent sites now require at least a 0.75 ratio. That means, you have to upload at least 75% as much as you download. So, the 30GB cap is really only worth 17GB of downloading, or a bit less due to overhead.
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