Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797]

[Rchivist]

Originally Posted by AlexanderHanff

They are obviously very concerned about their share price. I can't understand why, I mean it has only dropped about 60% in the last 2 months, they should be celebrating; if we had our way they would already be using their options for toilet paper. Also makes you wonder if/how they managed to persuade Charles Stanley to promote them, few quid in his back pocket maybe?

Alexander Hanff

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Bettypoos on iii really makes me laugh:

"They had a really good idea...." the fact that in order for their idea to work they have to break the law seems lost on her.

Tell you what, I have a really good idea to make money quick, maybe Bettypoos can come in on the deal. My plan is, walk into a bank with a shotgun and ask them for all the money in their registers. Should work great. What do you mean it's illegal, it's such a good idea?!?!?!

I bet bettypoos is the one who approached me on the stage directly after the PIA public meeting and claimed only 250 people had signed the PM petition and that I had no right to be at the meeting because I was not representing any official body.

Alexander Hanff

Now Alexander - I think you've been spending too much time with Kent Ertugrul. You're getting cynical

[AlexanderHanff]

It would be ungentlemanly of me to comment

Alexander Hanff

[jelv]

These forums can be read without signing in by any guest visitor. Therefore any visitor who is on one of the three ISPs could read any post made on here.

Posts I make on this forum are for the benefit of human readers of these forums only. I do not wish to permit any third party to benefit commercially by intercepting any post I have made on here whilst it is being read.

I have amended my signature accordingly.

Should we all do this on all forums to which we post and which can be viewed by anybody on the internet?

[Florence]

Originally Posted by AlexanderHanff

It would be ungentlemanly of me to comment

Alexander Hanff

I agree so I can do it for you since I am not a gentleman also not blonde..

Well reading Brettpoos posts why is he comong over as a dumb blonde.

Maybe if you know the line of work he is in and feel you know him post a few details on who he is just enough for him to know you can name him from his posts in the thread.. Just to show how anonymous he is..

[jca111]

Originally Posted by Florence

Maybe if you know the line of work he is in and feel you know him post a few details on who he is just enough for him to know you can name him from his posts in the thread.. Just to show how anonymous he is..

I did think of doing that - but my name is not Kent - and I don't want to come down to Phorm's level.

[Florence]

Originally Posted by jca111

I did think of doing that - but my name is not Kent - and I don't want to come down to Phorm's level.

Just thought it would show them that without the use of IP numbers or access to all surfing habits it is possible to identify someone.

[manxminx]

Wouldn't it be a shame if unedited footage of kent slagging off that nice Mr Hanff somehow leaked onto Youtube, Usenet, and a few Bittorrent sites?

Yes, great shame, I can't wait . . .

Actually, if it did turn up on the interweb, I feel it would do far more damage to Phorm than anything else so far . . .

[AlexanderHanff]

OK I have been spending a little time this morning playing with an idea for a logo for the privacyonline web site. Please note I am not a graphics artist so I have done the best with the little knowledge of vector graphics that I have.

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What do you all think?

Alexander Hanff

[NTLVictim]

Looks fine to me!

[Mick Fisher]

Looks great to me too.

[Barkotron]

Like it - it does look a bit like Gamespy's logo (or at least what it used to look like, I don't think I've looked at it in about 5 years) though...

[popper]

Quote:
Wouldn't it be a shame if unedited footage of kent slagging off that nice Mr Hanff somehow leaked onto Youtube, Usenet, and a few Bittorrent sites?

Originally Posted by manxminx

Yes, great shame, I can't wait . . .

Actually, if it did turn up on the interweb, I feel it would do far more damage to Phorm than anything else so far . . .

well......given were and when it took place, it not inconceivable that someone had a personal video camera taking footage of the IT show at the time and happened to capture some of the action, if you were there perhaps you might look at your footage.

theres also the potential that the CCTV has captured the action too, perhaps a simple DPA request to the show buildings DPA officer might get some interesting footage.

( and thats without even thinking about the BBCs footage and edited out sequences laying around the edit suite some public spirited egineer might happen to find on a usb key/HD somewere ).

[Dephormation]

Originally Posted by AlexanderHanff

What do you all think?

I think its too much like the gamespy logo

I'd pick something different.

[icsys]

Hi all.

Heres an interesting read.

The Foundation for Information Policy Research (FIPR) has today, 24th April 2008, sent the Home Office in-depth legal analysis [pdf] of the Phorm behavioural advertising system. The analysis has been produced by FIPR’s General Counsel (and ORG Advisory Council member) Nicholas Bohm, and complements the technical analysis produced by Richard Clayton earlier this month [pdf].

http://www.openrightsgroup.org/2008/...vice-on-phorm/

Direct link to the analysis is here:
http://www.fipr.org/080423phormlegal.pdf
I would like to draw your attention to paragraphs 4, 5 and 6 in particular.

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Originally Posted by Ravenheart

I've had a reply this morning from the British Bankers Association, I wrote to them and highlighted the potential of Phorm and how it could affect the new Banking Code.

They thanked me for my concerns, and have passed my letter on to the trade association for internet banking APACS, and have asked them to reply to me directly.

As soon as I hear any more I'll keep you posted.

I wrote to Bank Safe Online regarding Phorm. This is what they had to say:

Thank you for your email. Please note that banksafeonline is operated by
APACS on behalf of the UK banking industry to provide general advice on
online banking security, and we are not a financial institution.

The banking industry is aware of Phorm and will be observing the results
of the pilot with interest to ensure that customer security is not
compromised. Our understanding is that the Phorm service ignores HTTPS
and does not break ssl sessions. A broken ssl session would in any case
be readily detectable, as it would result in customers being presented
with a Phorm/webwise certificate rather than the one from their bank.
Beyond that we are unable to comment.

Best wishes

APACS Internet Fraud Response Team

[NTLVictim]

Originally Posted by popper

well......given were and when it took place, it not inconceivable that someone had a personal video camera taking footage of the IT show at the time and happened to capture some of the action, if you were there perhaps you might look at your footage.

theres also the potential that the CCTV has captured the action too, perhaps a simple DPA request to the show buildings DPA officer might get some interesting footage.

( and thats without even thinking about the BBCs footage and edited out sequences laying around the edit suite some public spirited egineer might happen to find on a usb key/HD somewere ).

Not so much a dropped hint, more an overarm throw...