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					Originally Posted by Mick   |  Yes but it's all OK in Eurolalaland, we really shouldn't be wanting to get out of such a wonderful club which is in no way starting to unravel.     
The Eurocrats are going to learn that the people of many countries aren't at all happy with their version of what the EU ought to be.
		 
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					Originally Posted by Osem  The Eurocrats are going to learn that the people of many countries aren't at all happy with their version of what the EU ought to be.
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					Originally Posted by Mr K  Thought you didn't read the tabloids Mick   |  I don't, it's a source I am linking to. Nice deflection strategy.    
What's wrong ? Cat stopping you typing ?
 
The Anti-EU sentiment is growing and so it should with those old cretins running it.
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					Originally Posted by Mick  U.S.E = The United States of Europe.   
I have no words, just.....   
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I don't, it's a source I am linking to. Nice deflection strategy.    
What's wrong ? Cat stopping you typing ?
The Anti-EU sentiment is growing and so it should with those old cretins running it. |  Yes it is but it's far easier to deny all of that, whine on about little Englanders, put it all down to tabloid fakery etc etc.
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			They are all out to get us, that's for sure.....                        A psychiatrist would have a field day on this thread !
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					Originally Posted by Mr K  They are all out to get us, that's for sure.....                        A psychiatrist would have a field day on this thread ! |  Nice to be insulted again Mr K as although my brain works slowly nowadays  there is still some saneness there in that empty brain of mine.   
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					Originally Posted by Mr K  Thought you didn't read the tabloids Mick   |  I think it takes a clever person than me to link to and post from a source without at the same time reading it!   
That being said, the Czech result shows the popularist movement hasn't stalled but then again we don't have the anti-EU leaders in France and the Netherlands that the original Project Fear promised us. 
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			The voice of employers is getting louder as understandably, they're worried about the impact the absence a no-transition deal will have on UK employment. An issue many of us on here can relate to but obviously of less importance to the elite like BoJo and Liam Fox.
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		| Major business groups warn Davis over 'serious' Brexit jobs risk In a strongly worded letter to the Brexit Secretary obtained by Sky News, organisations including the CBI and British Chambers of Commerce demanded "urgent agreement on transition arrangements to give businesses the certainty and time they need to prepare for a new UK-EU economic partnership".
 The letter, which was also signed by the bosses of the Institute of Directors, the manufacturers' group EEF and the Federation of Small Businesses, was described by sources as the most forthright warning to date from the "big five" business lobbyists.
 Collectively, the quintet represents members employing millions of private sector workers, making theirs a powerful voice in the quest for a smooth Brexit which slows the momentum towards big headcount reductions in UK company workforces.
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					Originally Posted by 1andrew1  I think it takes a clever person than me to link to and post from a source without at the same time reading it!   
That being said, the Czech result shows the popularist movement hasn't stalled but then again we don't have the anti-EU leaders in France and the Netherlands that the original Project Fear promised us. 
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		|  23-10-2017, 17:57 | #459 |  
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			I'd like someone to explain why there needs to be more EU not less or even the status quo.  Why can't these people stop thinking about expansion and ever closer union and get on with making sure the current club works more fairly?  I reckon if they'd done that at some point we wouldn't be where we are and right wing extremism wouldn't be on the increase despite what some people want to accept.    
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					Originally Posted by Mick  That's a laugh. The EU don't negotiate, they dictate as per Juncker's EU ambitions. Thank goodness we're leaving. |  You have evidence of that, or are you just relying on what the Papers tell you?
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					Originally Posted by Stuart  You have evidence of that, or are you just relying on what the Papers tell you? |  Well they have kept telling us that they won't discuss trade or anything related to it until we agree to pay up haven't they?  They also refused May's offer to sort out the status of EU citizens as a priority or didn't they?    
Let's turn this all around and someone tell us all what the EU has offered the UK in order to facilitate things?  Where they've been flexible and reasonable?  If the answer is 'well they don't have to because we decided to leave them' then that still amounts to them not being willing to compromise (regardless of the reason) and if this is going to be resolved for the best for both sides that's what's going to be required.  The UK can't be blamed entirely for the lack of progress when one side has been unwilling to discuss certain key elements of the process.
		 
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					Originally Posted by Osem  I'd like someone to explain why there needs to be more EU not less or even the status quo.  Why can't these people stop thinking about expansion and ever closer union and get on with making sure the current club works more fairly?  I reckon if they'd done that at some point we wouldn't be where we are and right wing extremism wouldn't be on the increase despite what some people want to accept.    |  How do you define "more fairly"? Would you like the UK to pay in as much per person as Germany does, for example? 
I think right-ring extremism is not an EU thing, it's related to globalisation, automation, income inequality and the ability to spread fake news and cultivate communities of interest that the internet provides.
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		| Michael Bloomberg, the billionaire media mogul and former mayor of New York, has said Brexit is the “single stupidest thing any country has ever done” apart from the election of Donald Trump as US president. 
 The 75-year old argued that “it is really hard to understand why a country that was doing so well wanted to ruin it” with the Brexit vote, in a series of outspoken remarks made at a technology conference in Boston a fortnight ago.
 
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					Originally Posted by Mr K   |  Another fear project & BS story from the Remoaner rag.
 
He has no valid point. Clearly knows nothing of Brexit stuff, because it’s not taken place yet. Yawn.
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			Whether its a remain rag or a Brexit rag they both come out with bull excretia and untruths  on a regular basis...
		 
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