Superhub : R30 - Superhub R29 is no more....

[thenry]

Originally Posted by BenMcr

For the SuperHubs yes, each vendor will likely be responsible for the firmware for the hardware they have produced.

Again, more complicated that you are saying it is. Just because Virgin haven't immediately said they are doing another update, doesn't mean they won't nor what timescale (short or long) that may be.

hope so. btw i'm by no mean going out my way to slate vm, the company i support. my posts are purely down to frustration that this whole things been a joke which i'm sure you'll agree with although you can't publicly state it. i truly hope vm pull something out the bag.

[Chrysalis]

Originally Posted by BenMcr

Because Wireless G that is most people's laptops is fine for 30Mbit

However Wireless 'N' is required for 50Mbit and 100Mbit, so to make sure that people can get the speeds the adapters are supplied

Must be good wireless G, I have never seen G hit 30mbit even on lan speeds.

The best I have seen is about 25mbit, and my sisters lappy can barely do just under 20mbit.

[BenMcr]

I did say 'fine' rather than 'perfect' but happy to be corrected on that

[Chrysalis]

I think the real probable answer to the dongle is that they wanted to add value to the 50mbit product over the 30mbit by not giving a free dongle with 30mbit. I am fine with that personally but its perhaps becoming a problem because its becoming clear on forum posts that people are expecting full performance over wireless.

[qasdfdsaq]

Originally Posted by Masque

I know more about this device than you ever will though and strangely that is a 100% fact because I have access to our intranet.

Also be aware the will be no option of getting one device instead of the other.

Actually I already know more about it than you ever will, reinforced by the fact that just about everything you've known aboiut it so far is wrong.

Lets not forget the time I had to spend two weeks explaining to you how the router in the original Superhub worked.

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Originally Posted by HuaweiHank

So the Virginmedia intranet is 100% up to date and accurate?

Of course it is. This is obviously the same intranet that doesn't know the difference between bits and bytes, and the same intranet that accused me of lying about my contract until I sent them printed evidence from a third party.

So Virginmedia are using uncertified equipment ..... or maybe it is just that the manufacturers used their own reference model numbers rather than VM numbers?

They already un-certified the wireless part of the old Superhub for their own benefit, maybe other parties are more proactive about revoking certifications for modified products?

I assume that a good reference point is the functionality that the Huawei was independently tested for, and was certified for in July?

Well the original Netgear one was also independantly tested, and certified, before VM messed around with it and cocked it up.

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Originally Posted by BenMcr

I'm pretty sure writing software and firmware certainly isn't childs play

Well actually it is. In fact the reason my social skills are lacking is because I spent my childhood writing software and firmware instead of playing with other kids.

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Originally Posted by jb66

Why did the ambits stop?

♪Well now in the streets the children screamed
The lovers cried and the poets dreamed
But not a word was spoken
The church bells all were broken
And the three men I admire the most
The Father, Son and the Holy Ghost
They caught the last train for the coast
The day the Ambits died.♫

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Originally Posted by Masque

Are you for real!!!!!!!!!!!!

Anything on the intranet with regards to this device is going to be a lot more accurate than any of the information you could ever post on here or probably have access to

You're saying you know more about something from reading it on the net than an engineer with a device on his workbench. Lol.

I could write a thesis on all the crap your "intranet" has got wrong and all the junk you've regurgitated from it, but alas I have better things to do.

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Originally Posted by HuaweiHank

I think you will find that the WiFi certification is more than speculation ....

Yeah, but on the other hand, VM did mess with the original Superhub after certification and uncertified it by changing the feature set and settings, so it's not 100% given that the released version will actually match what they submitted for certification (we know the original one certainly didn't).

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Originally Posted by BenMcr

One staff member on forum has said that. So it's not 'members' nor is it an official statement.

That one staff member also acts like all he says is blessed and insists he knows better than all of us.

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Originally Posted by BenMcr

I did say 'fine' rather than 'perfect' but happy to be corrected on that

Well if it's "fine" to have your connection work at half the speed it should do, that might explain why VM thought it was "fine" to release the Superhub while it was a year premature...

[BenMcr]

Originally Posted by qasdfdsaq

Well if it's "fine" to have your connection work at half the speed it should do, that might explain why VM thought it was "fine" to release the Superhub while it was a year premature...

Well 75% really if 'G' tops out at 20Mbit and as I said, happy to be corrected on the figures.

[qasdfdsaq]

Originally Posted by BenMcr

Well 75% really if 'G' tops out at 20Mbit and as I said, happy to be corrected on the figures.

Yeah no worries - good of you to acknowledge, unlike some people Just pointing out what some people may not know about '54g' not going near 54.

Though 20mbps is usually the limit under good conditions - as you move further away or get more interference it'll drop so in practice it'll often be lower. 20-24mbps out of 'g' is only next to the router with low interference - though again 'g' is a bit more resiliant than 'n' in practice.

Haven't seen anyone really benchmark the wireless performance (as in actually pushed to the limit) on these Superhubs yet mind you. But if/when I do (soon) get my own SH I shall certainly be pushing it whatever firmware it has.

[kwikbreaks]

I'm not sure if R30 corrected it or not but on R26 my Superhub keeled over and hung about 15 minutes into a LAN backup when using the 300Mbps setting. It did survive on the 150Mbps setting but was slow - just how slow I don't remember exactly but did post the numbers up on the VM community board - it was in a thread that lead to them sending me a replacement which did exactly the same. It was a completely uncontrolled test of course.

[qasdfdsaq]

Actually now that you remind me, I could take the wireless card out the Superhub and put it in my laptop, so I can do an controlled test of how "bad" the Superhub itself makes things turn - i.e. same wireless card in a PC vs. the same card in a Superhub to see what the Superhub firmware does to things.

[bbxxl]

Last time I looked R29 had problems now the R30 thread is on page 30 - I know it is very rude not to read up first, but could someone summarize where we are now? Is R30 still beta? When is it likely to be released?

[KenK]

Originally Posted by bbxxl

Last time I looked R29 had problems now the R30 thread is on page 30 - I know it is very rude not to read up first, but could someone summarize where we are now? Is R30 still beta? When is it likely to be released?

I believe it has now been released, but may not have rolled out to everyone yet. You'll need to read others' opinions on it.

[Sephiroth]

Originally Posted by bbxxl

Last time I looked R29 had problems now the R30 thread is on page 30 - I know it is very rude not to read up first, but could someone summarize where we are now? Is R30 still beta? When is it likely to be released?

It was released on 13-Sep-11.

[xnoddyx]

i have Just had 50mb to 100mb upgrade and got the virgin media super hub (NETGEAR CG3101D) and have probs with the R30 firmware will list in a min

funny thing is i had all most the same prob with my old NETGEAR WNR2000 for just over one year when i got my 50mb so just over a year complaining to NETGEAR got a fixed firmware that has worked with no problems for just over 2 years now one prob that i had was that the remote admin even when off was on and was set to port 80 and as i run a home web server this pretty much bugged that up so had to ues my old router and at 1st i got from NETGEAR i dont see nothing wrong with that emm it dont work i still got the vid i made to show them as well.
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now i have the super hub lol remote admin on the R30 firmware wont turn on portforward and dmz dont work so had to put the (not so super hub) into Modem Mode and ues my NETGEAR WNR2000 for routering

the strange thing is though when in super hub mode i got a new ip as i was expecting but when i put it into Modem Mode i got my old ip that i had on my 50mb modem lol and i only get 25Mbps to 48Mbps but only had the 100MB for a day so will give it till friday

[Chrysalis]

Its released, me and a few others are not getting the firmware sent tho.

However the answers from VM staff are the people who have failed to get R30 have poor power levels, its possible it seems if the power levels are out of spec for safety reasons it aborts an update.

Currently I am not using attenuators so my power levels are high, they plan to send me a tech next week.

[sniper007]

The other day I had the R30 pushed to my router. We lost internet access - router status was something like "not authorised" and it would not dish out a public wan IP.
I phoned support first thing in the morning when we noticed. We had to wait 12 hours for "updates to run sir" according to India. Sure enough it came back online about 8pm after a few reboots. Not sure why we lost service for a day. Anyone explain this?