Conservative Leadership Contest 2024

[tweetiepooh]

Surprise that people remember the negatives more than the positives. Not really. The press focus on the mistakes and it generates more heat than doing well.

[daveeb]

Originally Posted by tweetiepooh

Surprise that people remember the negatives more than the positives. Not really. The press focus on the mistakes and it generates more heat than doing well.

Most observant people just remember it for the horror show that it was. The majority of the press in fact went out of their way to deflect from the constant corruption and mistakes.

[spiderplant]

Originally Posted by tweetiepooh

Surprise that people remember the negatives more than the positives.

Were there positives?

[ianch99]

Originally Posted by spiderplant

Were there positives?

Yes, if you were a Tory donor.

[1andrew1]

Originally Posted by spiderplant

Were there positives?

If you seized the opportunities then yes. Those opportunities being to supply PPE, no due diligence or experience required except having Ministerial connections. And to discretely supply alcohol to No 10 during lockdown.

[heero_yuy]

Originally Posted by spiderplant

Were there positives?

Furlough that saved many people's livelihood and the companies that they worked for and still now work for. The subsidising of peoples energy bills that kept the heating on for the most vulnerable and the roll out of immunising jabs months ahead of the EU's botched procurement.

Yes mistakes were made but with the likes of Ferguson and Witty predicting that the population would be dropping like flies in their millions it's not surprising that a measure of panic ensued.

[Pierre]

Originally Posted by heero_yuy

Furlough that saved many people's livelihood and the companies that they worked for and still now work for. The subsidising of peoples energy bills that kept the heating on for the most vulnerable and the roll out of immunising jabs months ahead of the EU's botched procurement.

As a Tory voter since 2010 until the last election (which I didn’t vote Tory), you might expect me to agree with this post.

But no, furlough was their own making. You can’t shut down the economy and then expect credit for compensating those that you have banned from earning.

They shouldn’t have locked down, they shouldn’t have crippled the country or put us under house arrest to begin with.

Their response to covid, and their antics during should, and did, attract nothing but disdain.

In their 14 yrs they have achieved nothing of note, they had a mandate after 2019 to revolutionise the UK’s economy and relationship with the world, and they royally screwed it up.

Their legacy is to give us Kier…fffin…..Starmer, We’ll done.

[1andrew1]

One B in, one B out!

Chances of Braverman defecting to UKIP must have increased as she has withdrawn from the leadership race and says Party ‘doesn’t want to hear truth’ about why it lost the election.
https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/295292...y-leader-race/

And Badenoch has entered the leadership race.
https://news.sky.com/story/kemi-bade...sunak-13186188

They're conspiring to wreck the carefully-constructed CF poll!

Originally Posted by heero_yuy

In five years you'll fed up with Starmer as well and begging to have the Torys back.

Well I won't!

[denphone]

Originally Posted by Maggy

Well I won't!

Me neither as its very likely Starmer will to somes displeasure have two terms at least to sort the almighty mess that the Conservatives have left this country in..

[daveeb]

Originally Posted by denphone

Me neither as its very likely Starmer will to somes displeasure have two terms at least to sort the almighty mess that the Conservatives have left this country in..

I hope I never see another Tory government again and I'm not planning on dying any time soon.

[Dave42]

OBR confirm £21.9B black hole left by the nasty party

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Originally Posted by daveeb

I hope I never see another Tory government again and I'm not planning on dying any time soon.

FYI It's not the '£20 billion' that is the problem exactly.

The allegations are a further overspend not accounted for in the last budget. Namely that the cost of housing asylum seekers was not included in the figures and that a £9 billion contingency was spent multiple times over.

https://x.com/PJTheEconomist/status/1817933176930508802

Rachel Reeves says £6.4bn overspend on asylum this year. Huge number. Does genuinely appear to have been unfunded.

https://x.com/BenZaranko/status/1817937159292117436

Need to see the detail, but I think Rachel Reeves has grounds to be cross. The in-year funding pressures do genuinely appear to be greater than could be discerned from outside. The £9bn contingency ‘reserve’ has seemingly been spent several times over. It’s a mess.

That's from the IFS.

That said everyone is right to say the £20 billion was known about as was the fact a deal would need to be done with the Junior Doctors.

Two left (Robert Jenrick, Kemi Badenoch).

Former cabinet minister Priti Patel has been knocked out of the Conservative leadership contest in the first round of voting by Tory MPs.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c1d7y92n31zo

[Pierre]

I’d like to see Badenoch take it on, would be interesting if nothing else.