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		|  12-12-2018, 20:17 | #31 |  
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					Originally Posted by beaker17  I have already seen and am delighted.My new PC works impeccably on WiFi about 5 feet away from my "modem"(pleased I give you all a good laugh) OK - Superhub.
 
 Oddly enough the speed is incredible - very fast.
 
 So again I am grateful for the help that some posters gave me and over-the-moon with the WiFi and speed performance.
 
 Oh I forgot - why have an unsightly USB cable to my desktop when with WiFi all I have is a single power cable, no matter how many USB sockets my "modem" has got.
 |  Errr those are ethernet sockets or more correctly, ports.
 
If you don't know the difference then just carry on, I don't care as long as you are happy.
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		|  12-12-2018, 20:39 | #32 |  
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			I forget if shub1 has gigabit ethernet ports if it does on the bundle that beaker is on, his wifi may 'look' nicer (not sure how an ethernet lead is unsightly but...) but it won't be as fast as a wired connection. So he's paying for a service and then restricting the performance and speed available for the sake of looking nice.
 I don't get the obsession with Wi-Fi on anything that isn't a phone or tablet personally, ho  hum.
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		|  12-12-2018, 22:34 | #33 |  
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					Originally Posted by techguyone  I forget if shub1 has gigabit ethernet ports if it does on the bundle that beaker is on, his wifi may 'look' nicer (not sure how an ethernet lead is unsightly but...) but it won't be as fast as a wired connection. So he's paying for a service and then restricting the performance and speed available for the sake of looking nice.
 I don't get the obsession with Wi-Fi on anything that isn't a phone or tablet personally, ho  hum.
 |  Thanks for that techguyone. 
All major manufacturers enable a range of their desktops with WiFi and  USB. They would not invest their time and money on a design concept that was of no use. Not everybody on Planet Earth wishes to have a USB cable snaking all over their lounge carpet.
 
I know it may hurt, but my  Wifi desktop is performing impeccably in all respects. I am not restricting a single aspect of this superb set and reckon I have got top value for money and performance. 
Looking nice ? It sure does, aesthetic magnificence.
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		|  12-12-2018, 22:52 | #34 |  
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			OK. I give up, you clearly understand computers far more than me.    
Just do me one favour though, for the freaking love of God stop referring to Ethernet as USB you completely destroy any credibility you know the first thing about anything with electronics when you persist in this.
 
Your old crappy XP computer used a USB dongle to connect to the Internet via Ethernet. Because your old computer had no dedicated Ethernet port it wasn't a 'USB' connection, just a electronic bodge to get round the lack of ethernet port.
 
Ethernet 
noun: Ethernet; plural noun: Ethernets 
a system for connecting a number of computer systems to form a local area network, with protocols to control the passing of information and to avoid simultaneous transmission by two or more systems.
 
USB 
A Universal Serial Bus (USB) is a common interface that enables communication between devices and a host controller such as a personal computer (PC). It connects peripheral devices such as digital cameras, mice, keyboards, printers, scanners, media devices, external hard drives and flash drives.
 
Ethernet isn't scary, it's easier to use than Wi-Fi no password or worrying about antenna/signal strength etc, you literally plug one end of the  lead into the back of your computer (yes yes I know, it destroys your Feng shui feeling you have going) and the other end into the modem... err Superhub1
 
Woosh like magic you're connected - fancy that.
 
Anyways... I get the feeling I'm not getting through, so enjoy your WiFi computing...
 
I'm out.
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		|  12-12-2018, 23:48 | #35 |  
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					Originally Posted by techguyone  OK. I give up, you clearly understand computers far more than me.    
Just do me one favour though, for the freaking love of God stop referring to Ethernet as USB you completely destroy any credibility you know the first thing about anything with electronics when you persist in this.
 
Your old crappy XP computer used a USB dongle to connect to the Internet via Ethernet. Because your old computer had no dedicated Ethernet port it wasn't a 'USB' connection, just a electronic bodge to get round the lack of ethernet port.
 
Ethernet 
noun: Ethernet; plural noun: Ethernets 
a system for connecting a number of computer systems to form a local area network, with protocols to control the passing of information and to avoid simultaneous transmission by two or more systems.
 
USB 
A Universal Serial Bus (USB) is a common interface that enables communication between devices and a host controller such as a personal computer (PC). It connects peripheral devices such as digital cameras, mice, keyboards, printers, scanners, media devices, external hard drives and flash drives.
 
Ethernet isn't scary, it's easier to use than Wi-Fi no password or worrying about antenna/signal strength etc, you literally plug one end of the  lead into the back of your computer (yes yes I know, it destroys your Feng shui feeling you have going) and the other end into the modem... err Superhub1
 
Woosh like magic you're connected - fancy that.
 
Anyways... I get the feeling I'm not getting through, so enjoy your WiFi computing...
 
I'm out. |  I'm not sure I like your tone. My "old crappy" XP computer had an ethernet connection.  
In fact when VM first brought out 50Mb as their top tier BB a vast majority of customers had XP PC's. The problem was natively XP couldn't go faster than (IIRC) 20Mb without a tweak to the TCP setting which was an easy fix using https://www.speedguide.net/downloads.php .
 
My even older Win98 PC had one as well. 
 
Doesn't explain the OP not knowing the difference.
 
Good to know he's leaving himself wide open to hacking using a wireless connection though. He's a prime target for a MITM attack. He'll fall for it straight away.   |  
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		|  13-12-2018, 00:22 | #36 |  
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			Auf Wiedersehen everybody, have a nice day.
 I wish you all a Very Merry Christmas, I will certainly have one with my super-duper WiFi PC, plus my old and trusted XP as a steadfast reserve plaything.
 
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		|  13-12-2018, 01:16 | #37 |  
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		|  13-12-2018, 09:49 | #38 |  
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			Hopefully he won't come back, such a rude person, then he blames other people in this thread lol.
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		|  13-12-2018, 11:56 | #39 |  
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					Originally Posted by SnoopZ  Hopefully he won't come back, such a rude person, then he blames other people in this thread lol. |  Have a poor Christmas Snoopo, my best wishes to all the others -
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		|  13-12-2018, 12:54 | #40 |  
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					Originally Posted by techguyone  I forget if shub1 has gigabit ethernet ports if it does on the bundle that beaker is on, his wifi may 'look' nicer (not sure how an ethernet lead is unsightly but...) but it won't be as fast as a wired connection. So he's paying for a service and then restricting the performance and speed available for the sake of looking nice.
 I don't get the obsession with Wi-Fi on anything that isn't a phone or tablet personally, ho  hum.
 |  Some people don't like to see unnecessary cabling.   Also, depending on physical circumstances, Ethernet, while desirable, may not be practical.   For instance, I prefer to use Ethernet, but haven't implemented it all over the house because I do not want cables running all over the house, and don't want the disruption caused by fitting proper sockets in every room.   It's something I'll likely look at again when I eventually get round to rewiring the electrical sockets.
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