People on Carers Allowance to be studied more closely.

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Don't make me come back with the fracking hammer..

[pip08456]

Hmmmm, is fracking not evasion of the swear filter?

No it refers to INFRACTIONS and it's a Moderating term.

Back to the subject people .........

[dilli-theclaw]

Natalie wanted to look after me at home so this is of interest to me but I've heard nothing about these meetings so more information would indeed not go amiss.

They usually happen following a letter from the job centre Dili just inviting the carer to go in for a chat about things, my wifes have always been very informal and pleasant according to her.

[pip08456]

Originally Posted by RizzyKing

They usually happen following a letter from the job centre Dili just inviting the carer to go in for a chat about things, my wifes have always been very informal and pleasant according to her.

How many have you got Rizzy? You're a braver man than me!

Haha more then one she wouldn't be a carer they would have sectioned me by now.

[RichardCoulter]

Those who wish to do so can put their heads back into the sand.

For those who are actually interested in this new plan, for whatever reason, this is now beginning to be picked up by welfare rights organisations. It'll be interesting to see if the papers pick it up.

I'm trying to get hold of the actual contract to see if this sheds any more light on the Government's intentions.

I'll also try to get hold of some contact information for any carers in receipt of Carers Allowance who may be affected by this.

Please do not use this contact information for enquiries to satisfy idle curiosity as Government austerity measures have led to them being busier than ever with less funding.

Voluntary organisations are extremely busy without needless calls to them.[COLOR="Silver"]

Originally Posted by Osem

Correct. Deliberately misleading IMHO. It's the sign of a very warped mind when someone would deliberately stir up fear amongst those they claim to be supporting. It's quite obvious that some people rather like stirring up trouble and then playing the victim when called out. Luckily for everyone here, it's perfectly clear to see who has confidence to stand by their opinions and those who delude themselves that they can intimidate others into accepting the rubbish and bile they spout via the rep system they hide behind. Sad, sad, people...



Now who'd be pathetic enough to do that I wonder?...

Yes, ignoring trolls, the rubbish they post and the threads they create is the best way to hurt them. They only feel validated when people are paying attention to them and since they're so very inadequate, the only way they can get the what they crave is trolling. I suppose we should pity them and their empty lives really...

This "warped mind" is trying to help people like yourself, if you do not wish to participate, either put me on ignore or quit the insults.

No mind could ever be as warped as a parent who agrees that their child with a severe, lifelong and incurable condition should have to go through the pointless and stressful repeated testing processes brought in by the Government.

Originally Posted by Sirius

The 2 way mirror comment was put in to make it look worse than it is to be honest. If you are informed they are there at the beginning then it defeats the object of them being used in the first place. However if they use them without telling you then that is a whole different matter.

Good point. There is currently a discussion being had regarding this. Is it 'informed consent'?? Is it coercion??

Originally Posted by RichardCoulter

Those who wish to do so can put their heads back into the sand.

For those who are actually interested in this new plan, for whatever reason, this is now beginning to be picked up by welfare rights organisations. It'll be interesting to see if the papers pick it up.

I'm trying to get hold of the actual contract to see if this sheds any more light on the Government's intentions.

I'll also try to get hold of some contact information for any carers in receipt of Carers Allowance who may be affected by this.

Please do not use this contact information for enquiries to satisfy idle curiosity as Government austerity measures have led to them being busier than ever with less funding.

Voluntary organisations are extremely busy without needless calls to them.[COLOR="Silver"]

This "warped mind" is trying to help people like yourself, if you do not wish to participate, either put me on ignore or quit the insults.

No mind could ever be as warped as a parent who agrees that their child with a severe, lifelong and incurable condition should have to go through the pointless and stressful repeated testing process brought in by the Government.



Good point. There is currently a discussion being had regarding this. Is it 'informed consent'?? Is it coercion??

Seriously your on a different planet

You still have provided no links or evidence and yet you still try to needlessly scare people with your BS ...shame on you

[RichardCoulter]

Originally Posted by techguyone

Done

Originally Posted by Osem

Likewise.

Thank you.

Hopefully we can now have a proper discussion without the personal insults & puerile remarks. If there is anyone else who feels the same way as the above, now is as good a time as any to follow suit.

I am still waiting for more details so the rest of us can discuss this properly to try to get to the bottom of this worrying move.

Thus far, it's believed that this is an attempt by the Government to cut down on fraudulant claims for Carers Allowance and associated benefits.

If this is indeed the case, they should be open and honest about this Orwellian move and let the electorate decide if this is acceptable or not.

It is fair to say that some people actually resent carers.

My response was to say that I would bet my life that this parent would gladly swap every penny of his weekly £62.10 Carers Allowance in return for a fit and healthy child. I've not yet met a parent who wouldn't.

Originally Posted by RichardCoulter

Thank you.

Hopefully we can now have a proper discussion without the personal insults & puerile remarks. If there is anyone else who feels the same way as the above, now is as good a time as any to follow suit.

I am still waiting for more details so the rest of us can discuss this properly to try to get to the bottom of this worrying move.

Thus far, it's believed that this is an attempt by the Government to cut down on fraudulant claims.

If this is indeed the case, they should be open and honest about this Orwellian move.

Only by you , people who have experienced these talks have no issues

[Rexz]

Originally Posted by RichardCoulter

Thank you.

Hopefully we can now have a proper discussion without the personal insults & puerile remarks. If there is anyone else who feels the same way as the above, now is as good a time as any to follow suit.

I am still waiting for more details so the rest of us can discuss this properly to try to get to the bottom of this worrying move.

Thus far, it's believed that this is an attempt by the Government to cut down on fraudulant claims for Carers Allowance and associated benefits.

If this is indeed the case, they should be open and honest about this Orwellian move and let the electorate decide if this is acceptable or not.

It is fair to say that some people actually resent carers.

My response was to say that I would bet my life that this parent would gladly swap every penny of his weekly £62.10 Carers Allowance in return for a fit and healthy child. I've not yet met a parent who wouldn't.

ATOS was once just a test or an idea... Now look where it is. If this is indeed backed somehow by the government, it will end up being something in the pipeline, afterall, if the government can save on something and a company is willing to take it on they will.

[Taf]

Originally Posted by RichardCoulter

My response was to say that I would bet my life that this parent would gladly swap every penny of his weekly £62.10 Carers Allowance in return for a fit and healthy child. I've not yet met a parent who wouldn't.

Please do not forget that Carers Allowance is both taxable and counted as income for benefits.

We are now in the situation that I have started to receive small pensions, and added to the C.A. my wife and I receive, puts us over the limit for any Income Support at all, and vastly reduced Rent and Poll Tax benefits. And it gets worse when Universal Credit starts "to act as incentive to get into work".

We're already "working" as full time Carers you twonks!

[nomadking]

Originally Posted by RichardCoulter

Thank you.

Hopefully we can now have a proper discussion without the personal insults & puerile remarks. If there is anyone else who feels the same way as the above, now is as good a time as any to follow suit.

I am still waiting for more details so the rest of us can discuss this properly to try to get to the bottom of this worrying move.

Thus far, it's believed that this is an attempt by the Government to cut down on fraudulant claims for Carers Allowance and associated benefits.

If this is indeed the case, they should be open and honest about this Orwellian move and let the electorate decide if this is acceptable or not.

It is fair to say that some people actually resent carers, Marty once complained that a neighbour of his was sunbathing whilst his disabled child was at school!

My response was to say that I would bet my life that this parent would gladly swap every penny of his weekly £62.10 Carers Allowance in return for a fit and healthy child. I've not yet met a parent who wouldn't.

What are you wittering on about. The link you gave says what it's about. Click on the "Home" tab and look at the bottom. They facilitate various research projects. 2 are mentioned, one for OFGEM and the other for the DWP.

RT @RobYates2010: Getting ready for a day of User Research @TalkingShopMCR to research the @carersDWP self-employment journey. pic.twitter.com/znGWXaFBCv30th June 2016 9:43 am

It says that the meeting was about the carers self-employment journey. It is NOT about the claims of individuals, it is about trying to IMPROVE things for ALL claimants.

Useful day of user research for @carersDWP at Liverpool Central Library with @lammokirkham & others. Great building

On my way to London for the first Customer Insight Group face to face meeting with @DaveBower1, @DebBlanch44 and others @DWPUserResearch

Mel Johnson & @RobYates2010 presented a brilliant Digital Awareness Wk session on Carers Allowance Digital Service

Great event in Liverpool today for @carersweek. Really useful hearing about users experiences and showing them the @carersDWP online service

Representing @carersDWP at Liverpool #carersweek event today with @olivermawdsley. Great opportunity to speak to carers & get some insights

Great #carersweek event yesterday @UCLan with Preston carers. Got some really useful insights from carers

The @carersDWP User Research @TalkingShopMCR going well so far. Some great insights already around breaks in care.

How is any of that vaguely sinister?