RG41 5: 4 upstream channels
04-06-2016, 12:16
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Re: RG41 5: 4 upstream channels
I don't think being enthusiastic about network upgrades is sad. We could do with more of it, I'm a firm believer that top notch infrastructure would benefit the country as a whole and pay for itself in no time at all.
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04-06-2016, 20:49
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Re: RG41 5: 4 upstream channels
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Originally Posted by Kushan
I don't think being enthusiastic about network upgrades is sad. We could do with more of it, I'm a firm believer that top notch infrastructure would benefit the country as a whole and pay for itself in no time at all.
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Someone gets it.
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04-06-2016, 22:37
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Re: RG41 5: 4 upstream channels
Well now one of my upstream channels Is down to 16,and maxing out about 2meg up, hopefully it's just some work being done, although there's nothing on the service checker...
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05-06-2016, 11:25
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Re: RG41 5: 4 upstream channels
IF nothing is on the service centre, treat it as a fault. Don't tell support about the QAM, just tell them you've got slow upload speeds.
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05-06-2016, 16:01
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Re: RG41 5: 4 upstream channels
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Bond a couple of FTTC lines, or get one of these. Problem solved.
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   £2000/month for 100mbits-1gbit
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05-06-2016, 16:44
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Re: RG41 5: 4 upstream channels
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To be fair, they can actually be much cheaper than this if you go via someone else (it'll still end up being BT most likely). We pay (still quite a lot) £500 a month for 50/50 and that's from a contract that's over 2 years old, come renewal time we're expecting that to be much cheaper and I'd expect 100Mbit or better for that price.
Does depend on location though.
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05-06-2016, 17:29
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Re: RG41 5: 4 upstream channels
Remember, Kush, that this is a non-contended line. If it was shared by 200 aggregated users, that would notionally be covered by £2.50/month from each user (plus the costs of any aggregating equipment).
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05-06-2016, 20:41
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Re: RG41 5: 4 upstream channels
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Originally Posted by Kushan
I don't think being enthusiastic about network upgrades is sad. We could do with more of it, I'm a firm believer that top notch infrastructure would benefit the country as a whole and pay for itself in no time at all.
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I agree, which is why I'm enthused by such upgrades. This isn't one of them. DOCSIS 3.1 interests me, as do G.fast or FTTP on the Openreach side.
The original upstream uplift was a much larger increase proportionately and involved a new technology. This is pretty disinteresting relatively.
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06-06-2016, 00:53
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Re: RG41 5: 4 upstream channels
Some of us dont have endless money.
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06-06-2016, 11:31
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Re: RG41 5: 4 upstream channels
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Originally Posted by Sephiroth
Remember, Kush, that this is a non-contended line. If it was shared by 200 aggregated users, that would notionally be covered by £2.50/month from each user (plus the costs of any aggregating equipment).
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Yeah, our line is uncontended as well, but we don't share it with anyone :P
We're in a business centre with many other businesses and it baffles me that the owners don't just fork out for a beefy leased line to rent to the individual businesses like that. Instead, there's literally tens of fibre points coming into the building, to the point where they had to drill a hole in one of the boxes in the basement to be able to roll out additional fibre to our office
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Some of us dont have endless money.
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It's intended for businesses to be fair and is less about the bandwidth and more about the SLA, because for many businesses a single minute of downtime can mean £hundreds (or more) in losses.
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Originally Posted by Ignitionnet
I agree, which is why I'm enthused by such upgrades. This isn't one of them. DOCSIS 3.1 interests me, as do G.fast or FTTP on the Openreach side.
The original upstream uplift was a much larger increase proportionately and involved a new technology. This is pretty disinteresting relatively.
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Surely that's a little objective? I agree with you that the next-generation technologies are by far the most interesting things, but even just knowing that network upgrades are occurring is exciting to us lot that don't have inside knowledge :P
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06-06-2016, 12:46
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Re: RG41 5: 4 upstream channels
Besides the point that 3.1 is probably going to take a bloody long time to roll out in the next 2-3 years if at all.
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06-06-2016, 17:05
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Re: RG41 5: 4 upstream channels
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Originally Posted by Kushan
Yeah, our line is uncontended as well, but we don't share it with anyone :P
We're in a business centre with many other businesses and it baffles me that the owners don't just fork out for a beefy leased line to rent to the individual businesses like that. Instead, there's literally tens of fibre points coming into the building, to the point where they had to drill a hole in one of the boxes in the basement to be able to roll out additional fibre to our office P
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VM have just launched a shared MIA service for things like office blocks...
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07-06-2016, 09:03
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Re: RG41 5: 4 upstream channels
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Besides the point that 3.1 is probably going to take a bloody long time to roll out in the next 2-3 years if at all.
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EDIT: Just FYI upstream enhancements will take a little while too, especially in areas that need rebuilds.
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VM have just launched a shared MIA service for things like office blocks...
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Yes I've seen the FTTB service. Good call.
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07-06-2016, 12:32
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Re: RG41 5: 4 upstream channels
Your such a bloody tease I'm just going to say that now STOP WITH THE DAMN WINKY FACES I NEED TO KNOW WHAT YOU ARE HIDING.
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07-06-2016, 18:22
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Re: RG41 5: 4 upstream channels
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Originally Posted by Ignitionnet
Good stuff, although I was expecting to see posts on this last month
There was a firmware issue making this harder on the Arris kit but hopefully that's sorted too and that platform can receive the same treatment.[COLOR="Silver"]
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There also appears to be a firmware issue on the Arris kit that causes SH3's in modem mode to lose connection almost exactly every 30 minutes... which makes no sense since the SH3 is also Arris kit, but people on the Cisco setup haven't reported the issue.
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