TiVo Sky throws down the gauntlet - Page 3

passingbat · 19-11-2015, 14:59

I admit I haven't checked them in detail, but after a quick look, it appears that the Tivo Bolt is capable of many (maybe all?) of the same functions as the Sky Q box, though it has fewer tuners.

https://www.tivo.com/

Perfect Choice · 19-11-2015, 15:57

yep, think that has to be the answer to Sky Q box especially for the number of concurrent recording capacity I need. Just wait to see what VM do in 2016 and sort out performance of course + when will we have a live EPG!!! I would like to stop my wife having to turn on the kitchen TV to look at Freeview EPG so see what is really on when the schedule is delayed or changes!

toady · 19-11-2015, 19:30

The big showstopper with Sky Q, Tivo Bolt and TIVO multiroom streaming is the restrictions from the broadcasters prohibiting streaming to other boxes/devices. Obviously Sky is in a better position than VM they should allow their own channels to be re transmitted to other devices without too much of a problem

Why does the Sky Q need 12 tuners if you can only record on 4 of them + 1 for live viewing?

muppetman11 · 19-11-2015, 19:58

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Originally Posted by toady

The big showstopper with Sky Q, Tivo Bolt and TIVO multiroom streaming is the restrictions from the broadcasters prohibiting streaming to other boxes/devices. Obviously Sky is in a better position than VM they should allow their own channels to be re transmitted to other devices without too much of a problem

Why does the Sky Q need 12 tuners if you can only record on 4 of them + 1 for live viewing?

4 for recording with 1 for live viewing , 2 for mini tv boxes , 2 for tablets/phones and the rest reserved for future expansion.

I'd expect all channels to be able to watch on multiroom boxes.

vm_tech · 19-11-2015, 20:27

12 tuners, that's gonna be drawing a nice bit of power for the amplifier(s)

spiderplant · 19-11-2015, 20:50

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Originally Posted by toady

Obviously Sky is in a better position than VM they should allow their own channels to be re transmitted to other devices without too much of a problem

It's not a problem for VM either. Sky have allowed multi-room streaming of their channels since July 2014.

steveh · 20-11-2015, 10:13

I would hope any future box from Virgin played more to their strength in massive bandwidth to their customers than in huge numbers of tuners and local storage. Watch from the beginning and letting customers build cloud-hosted programme libraries out of recordings, on-demand subs and purchases would give them a better competitive edge.

This from Wired a few months back is good on the problems of making a decent set top box: http://www.wired.com/2015/09/perfect...ll-never-make/

greeninferno · 20-11-2015, 13:38

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Originally Posted by steveh

I would hope any future box from Virgin played more to their strength in massive bandwidth to their customers than in huge numbers of tuners and local storage. Watch from the beginning and letting customers build cloud-hosted programme libraries out of recordings, on-demand subs and purchases would give them a better competitive edge.

This from Wired a few months back is good on the problems of making a decent set top box: http://www.wired.com/2015/09/perfect...ll-never-make/

Regardless of what features it has , it should respond rapidly to the user's input

watching a spinning disc in this day and age on a set top box is a joke.

Stuart · 20-11-2015, 13:41

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Originally Posted by nick.king

Game changer in my eyes, Virgin are last again with new tech.

BT have 4k
Sky now have 4k

Even if you aren't interested in 4k it's going to be the future.

Wait and see. Sky threw a massive amount of money into 3D and look what happened there..

RichardCoulter · 20-11-2015, 13:57

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Originally Posted by Hugh

Just for accuracy, Sky don't have 4K - they will have it early 2016.

Not accuracy, pedancy.

denphone · 20-11-2015, 14:12

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Originally Posted by Stuart

Wait and see. Sky threw a massive amount of money into 3D and look what happened there..

Yes there were quite a few venerable forum members who one remembers saying that 3D was the future.

Itshim · 20-11-2015, 15:01

Personally I would like Tivo scrapped ( Its well known I questioned this choice from day one) & replaced with something like Contour :-
Record 6 DVR

Get the flexibility of recording up to six shows at a time and storing up to 1,000* hours of programming.

Watch recorded shows on any TV
Start watching in one room and resume in another
Create your own personal playlist

This is the standard box in my part of the world these days.

**Hugh** · 20-11-2015, 15:14

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Originally Posted by RichardCoulter

Not accuracy, pedancy.

Oh, the irony of being corrected with a word that doesn't exist in the dictionary...

I think you may have meant pedantry, but I am not sure it's a minor detail pointing out the fact that if something is coming in 2016, it is incorrect to say that someone has it now.

You have a business - if someone said they had put the money into your account now, but in fact meant they were going to put it in there some time in 2016, would you accept it as a factual statement?

ymov

DaMac · 20-11-2015, 15:59

It won't actually have 12 tuners inside, it will probably have 2 fbc tuners and 2 standard tuners, if you then connect the 2 fbc tuners with uni cable and use a compatible lnb that will effectivly give you the pseudo effect of 10 tuners plus 2 physical tuners... Can you imagine 12 cables on the back of one box.

muppetman11 · 20-11-2015, 18:21

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Originally Posted by passingbat

I admit I haven't checked them in detail, but after a quick look, it appears that the Tivo Bolt is capable of many (maybe all?) of the same functions as the Sky Q box, though it has fewer tuners.

https://www.tivo.com/

It would be nice if Tivo worked with your aerial input or satellite input in the UK at least you'd then have the option of decent spec'd boxes. Because Tivo has an exclusive agreement with VM your stuck with the hardware they dish out.