Burning is the new beheading.

[papa smurf]

Originally Posted by Halcyon

I cant read the news anymore as it is so sad to read such awful news.

Burning, stoning, beheading, etc...What next?

These people are living in the stone age and I find it digusting that anyone could do such things to another human being.

whatever upsets us the most- they are terrorists and they are trying to terrorise us they will keep changing methods so we cannot become immune to their barbaric acts

[Pierre]

Originally Posted by Mr Angry

I think it's important to note that it wasn't that long ago civilized Western democracies were behaving in a very similar fashion (spectacular lynching being a case in point).

Why?

Originally Posted by Pierre

Why?

To create a thin veneer of moral equivalence, perhaps?

[Pierre]

Doesn't help when the " leader of the free world" talks this bollocks

http://thedailyrepublican.com/index....0538&Itemid=26

[Sirius]

Originally Posted by Pierre

Doesn't help when the " leader of the free world" talks this bollocks

http://thedailyrepublican.com/index....0538&Itemid=26

Leader of the free world my arse

[Cobbydaler]

Originally Posted by Pierre

Doesn't help when the " leader of the free world" talks this bollocks

http://thedailyrepublican.com/index....0538&Itemid=26

Originally Posted by Sirius

Leader of the free world my arse

Living there, what he states is the truth. Plus any article which states Fox News as a source is a joke. http://www.forwardprogressives.com/f...-percent-time/

[Pierre]

Originally Posted by Cobbydaler

Living there, what he states is the truth. Plus any article which states Fox News as a source is a joke. http://www.forwardprogressives.com/f...-percent-time/

Doesn't matter where you live, if he has trawl back through history to the crusades and the inquisition???

That's the kind of tripe that gets posted on here, not rhetoric for a world leader.

History?

He was talking about the second half of the 20th Century as well, re the KKK and the Jim Crow laws in the USA.

Not to forget Anders Breivik in Norway recently, who claimed membership of an 'international Christian military order' and called himself a Christian Crusader, or the bombings of Planned Parenthood clinics in America and Australia, or the Army of God in the USA who state "whatever force is legitimate to defend the life of a born child is legitimate to defend the life of an unborn child......actions are morally justified if they were necessary for the purpose of defending innocent human life".

And let's not forget the widely-reported* near beheading of someone in the USA last year, which was apparently because the victim was supposed to be practicing witchcraft, which was against the murderer's Christian beliefs....

btw, here is the source (not Faux News) for the discussion - The National Prayer Breakfast, and here is the part that the "Fair and Balanced" News Channel didn't report....

“We see faith driving us to do right,” he said to more than 3,500 people attending the annual National Prayer Breakfast. “But we also see faith being twisted and distorted, used as a wedge — or worse, sometimes used as a weapon.”

He urged believers of all faiths to practice humility, support church-state separation and adhere to the golden rule as ways to keep religion in its proper context.

“As people of faith, we are summoned to push back against those who try to distort our religion — any religion — for their own nihilistic ends,” Obama said. “Here at home and around the world we will constantly reaffirm that fundamental freedom: freedom of religion, the right to practice our faith how we choose, to change our faith if we choose, to practice no faith at all if we choose, and to do so free of persecution and fear and discrimination.”

Obama denounced the so-called Islamic State that is waging a bloody war across Syria and Iraq against fellow Muslims and religious minorities, labeling the group “a brutal, vicious death cult.”....

....“If, in fact, we defend the legal right of a person to insult another’s religion, we’re equally obligated to use our free speech to condemn such insults,” he said, drawing applause, “and stand shoulder to shoulder with religious communities, particularly religious minorities, who are the targets of such attacks.”

*

[Pierre]

Originally Posted by Hugh

History?

He was talking about the second half of the 20th Century as well, re the KKK and the Jim Crow laws in the USA.

Yeah right, because the KKK and the Global threat currently present by extremist Islam are very comparable aren't they.

Not to forget Anders Breivik in Norway recently, who claimed membership of an 'international Christian military order' and called himself a Christian Crusader,

Ah yes, and since the work of this crazed "individual" that shot a load of students and didn't specifically target Muslims, I see there's been a load of other attacks from the " international Christian military order" hasn't there? Yes I believe they recently broke into an Iranian newspaper and killed a load of cartoonists that had depicted Christ as a on of the Bash Street Kids...............sarcasm

or the bombings of Planned Parenthood clinics in America and Australia, or the Army of God in the USA who state "whatever force is legitimate to defend the life of a born child is legitimate to defend the life of an unborn child......actions are morally justified if they were necessary for the purpose of defending innocent human life".

That's right, in fact I've cancelled travelling to America now in case I'm kidnapped by planned parenthood and beheaded by them

[papa smurf]

Originally Posted by papa smurf

have our own peaceful Muslims started to publicly condemn this barbaric act yet or are they still organising a mass protest .

seems their busy bemoaning cartoons but i'm sure they will get round to it

Thousands of British Muslims protest

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...-Mohammed.html

[Sirius]

Originally Posted by Pierre

Yeah right, because the KKK and the Global threat currently present by extremist Islam are very comparable aren't they.



Ah yes, and since the work of this crazed "individual" that shot a load of students and didn't specifically target Muslims, I see there's been a load of other attacks from the " international Christian military order" hasn't there? Yes I believe they recently broke into an Iranian newspaper and killed a load of cartoonists that had depicted Christ as a on of the Bash Street Kids...............sarcasm




That's right, in fact I've cancelled travelling to America now in case I'm kidnapped by planned parenthood and beheaded by them

Do tell do they shout ally snackbar as well

Originally Posted by Pierre

Yeah right, because the KKK and the Global threat currently present by extremist Islam are very comparable aren't they.

Well, if you want to compare likelyhoods, you're more likely to be killed by a Christian with a gun in the USA than you are by a Muslim Terrorist in the UK (sorry to bring facts into the conversation, but there have been over 200,000 gun-related deaths in the USA since 2007, and 53 'Muslim Terrorist' deaths in the UK in the same time period....)

Originally Posted by Pierre

Ah yes, and since the work of this crazed "individual" that shot a load of students and didn't specifically target Muslims, I see there's been a load of other attacks from the " international Christian military order" hasn't there? Yes I believe they recently broke into an Iranian newspaper and killed a load of cartoonists that had depicted Christ as a on of the Bash Street Kids...............sarcasm

Ah, yes, so the Charlie Hebdo killers only killed Christians....... sarcasm

Originally Posted by Pierre

YThat's right, in fact I've cancelled travelling to America now in case I'm kidnapped by planned parenthood and beheaded by them

As stated above, you're much more likely to be killed by a Christian, or in this country just crossing the road...

[Pierre]

Originally Posted by Hugh

Well, if you want to compare likelyhoods, you're more likely to be killed by a Christian with a gun in the USA than you are by a Muslim Terrorist in the UK (sorry to bring facts into the conversation, but there have been over 200,000 gun-related deaths in the USA since 2007, and 53 'Muslim Terrorist' deaths in the UK in the same time period....)

Just remind me what your point is again?

Are American Christians out on a global crusade to kill Muslims?

No.

You can bring in as many facts as you want, but they mean sod all when you're talking bollocks.

Originally Posted by Pierre

Just remind me what your point is again?

Are American Christians out on a global crusade to kill Muslims?

No.

You can bring in as many facts as you want, but they mean sod all when you're talking bollocks.

My point is that you, as a UK citizen, are more likely to be killed by a car in the UK, or a Christian with a gun in the USA, than by a "muslim terrorist" in the UK. That's the problem with facts - they mean you're talking about real things, not uninformed opinions....

Are all Muslims on a Global Crusade to kill Christians.

No.

Are some Muslims saying they are?

Yes - but that doesn't make it a fact that all Muslims are, no matter how many times anyone tries to conflate the two premises...

Originally Posted by Pierre

Yeah right, because the KKK and the Global threat currently present by extremist Islam are very comparable aren't they.

But he wasn't talking about the immediate threats, he was talking about the 'perversion' of faiths.