Government should be recalled

[Arthurgray50@blu]

David Cameron COULD have done more to help, he could have authoised more help from the Army, to help out these people.

People are forgetting that as soon as there is a flood problem in other countries, David Cameron is the first to help to them.

BUT, we are talking about the UK here, everyone in the UK was effected by the flooding, residents were given the usual crap about we are doing what we can.

Mr Cameron went to one village and was confronted by angry residents, but this is NOT good enough.

We are talking about the UK here, not some bloody country overseas, If it was we would had the Army and Navy, and RAF flying stuff out to aid them. The UK, nothing apart from the local guys, who could not cope, some residents are still without power and still flodded. Is this an Arthur rant, yes, the government are simply not doing enough to help.

[Russ]

Originally Posted by Arthurgray50@blu

David Cameron COULD have done more to help, he could have authoised more help from the Army, to help out these people.

But exactly what sort of help are you suggesting? Telling the water to recede?

Originally Posted by Arthurgray50@blu

David Cameron COULD have done more to help, he could have authoised more help from the Army, to help out these people.

People are forgetting that as soon as there is a flood problem in other countries, David Cameron is the first to help to them.

BUT, we are talking about the UK here, everyone in the UK was effected by the flooding, residents were given the usual crap about we are doing what we can.

Mr Cameron went to one village and was confronted by angry residents, but this is NOT good enough.

We are talking about the UK here, not some bloody country overseas, If it was we would had the Army and Navy, and RAF flying stuff out to aid them. The UK, nothing apart from the local guys, who could not cope, some residents are still without power and still flodded. Is this an Arthur rant, yes, the government are simply not doing enough to help.

What are you on about, I nor anyone I know was affected by the flooding, so why do you say everyone in the UK was affected by the flooding?

You say that Cameron went to one village and that's not good enough, once you have seen flooding you have seen flooding, what did you expect him to do?

Originally Posted by Arthurgray50@blu

David Cameron COULD have done more to help, he could have authoised more help from the Army, to help out these people.

People are forgetting that as soon as there is a flood problem in other countries, David Cameron is the first to help to them.

BUT, we are talking about the UK here, everyone in the UK was effected by the flooding, residents were given the usual crap about we are doing what we can.

Mr Cameron went to one village and was confronted by angry residents, but this is NOT good enough.

We are talking about the UK here, not some bloody country overseas, If it was we would had the Army and Navy, and RAF flying stuff out to aid them. The UK, nothing apart from the local guys, who could not cope, some residents are still without power and still flodded. Is this an Arthur rant, yes, the government are simply not doing enough to help.

So what you're saying is that we should have full disaster relief for some flooded houses and blown down power lines .It's a bit of an overreaction don't you think ? and what this has to do with Cameron is beyond me ,i b
et you didn't go off on one when Blair/Brown where in power and there was much more severe flooding

[Stephen]

Originally Posted by Arthurgray50@blu

David Cameron COULD have done more to help, he could have authoised more help from the Army, to help out these people.

People are forgetting that as soon as there is a flood problem in other countries, David Cameron is the first to help to them.

BUT, we are talking about the UK here, everyone in the UK was effected by the flooding, residents were given the usual crap about we are doing what we can.

Mr Cameron went to one village and was confronted by angry residents, but this is NOT good enough.

We are talking about the UK here, not some bloody country overseas, If it was we would had the Army and Navy, and RAF flying stuff out to aid them. The UK, nothing apart from the local guys, who could not cope, some residents are still without power and still flodded. Is this an Arthur rant, yes, the government are simply not doing enough to help.

Sorry Arthur but what? that is 100% not true.

Originally Posted by Arthurgray50@blu

David Cameron COULD have done more to help, he could have authoised more help from the Army, to help out these people.

People are forgetting that as soon as there is a flood problem in other countries, David Cameron is the first to help to them.

BUT, we are talking about the UK here, everyone in the UK was effected by the flooding, residents were given the usual crap about we are doing what we can.

Mr Cameron went to one village and was confronted by angry residents, but this is NOT good enough.

We are talking about the UK here, not some bloody country overseas, If it was we would had the Army and Navy, and RAF flying stuff out to aid them. The UK, nothing apart from the local guys, who could not cope, some residents are still without power and still flodded. Is this an Arthur rant, yes, the government are simply not doing enough to help.

Arthur, you appear to be comparing apples and hand-grenades.

In the recent bad weather in the UK, hundreds of thousands of people had short-term inconvenience, and a handful of people died due to the weather (which is bad enough).

In the recent typhoon in the Philippines, millions were affected and over 6,000 killed, and in the Syrian conflict, there have been 6 million displaced and over 100,000 killed.

What has happened to UK residents in the last week has not been nice, but to think it is comparable to some overseas disasters where we have provided aid is, at best, disingenuous.

Most people have now got their power back, but when over 100,000 homes were without power, it takes time to fix these things - the same with flooding; there are over 50 flood warnings still in force - we, as a country, can't fix everything immediately.

The problem is that the news focuses on the outliers - those people who haven't had a resolution to their problem, and not on the vast majority that have.

[Arthurgray50@blu]

Why is it that members are taking out of all proportion again. I am saying that ALL over the UK we were hit by the big storms.

Everyone was effected by damage to there buildings, effected by flooding and power lines were badly hit, and still people are effected today.

I am saying that the local authorities were sitting on there backsides doing nought, severl members of a village today aon Sky News were saying that NO one came to there aid, even todat they are getting the same reply ' we are doing what we can' or Cameron saying ' conact your local council' this is to me is not good enough.

Yes, it was the festive season, and yes people deserve to have a holday, but its only yesterday Cameron went out to survey several villages and thats when someone had a go.

This government should have intervened quicker to offer help.

In America, they would have ordered out the National Guard to help. What has Cameron said 'contact your local council'

Cameron and Co should have done more to help.

The Government can't do too much now, everything is already well underway. I think they do need to look at what can be done long term to prepare for what are increasingly common weather events. Looking at coastal defence, rivers, and any high-risk infrastructure that can be protected from damage. We used to say that there was no point in copying what other nations have done as we have relatively mild winters in comparison but this is no longer the case, it happens frequently, and it will probably get worse.

[Stephen]

Arthur why are you not listening to what other people are saying.

Not EVERYONE was effected by the storms/flooding. Over all it was a small percentage of the UK.

There is NO need for the government or the Army to get involved. In the USA the National Guard don't get called out for every little storm. Just extreme natural disasters like really bad earthquakes or severe hurricanes like Katrina.

There is nothing the councils would really be able to do about the electricity. Only the Electricity companies can fix that, and they ARE working round the clock to get power back. No point trying to get people to help when they wouldn't be able to do anything at all.

Same with the flooding. If it keeps on raining there is nothing anyone can realistically do.

Once the flooding subsides then it will be down to the Insurance companies to help people.

Nothing for the councils really.

[Russ]

Originally Posted by Arthurgray50@blu

Everyone was effected by damage to there buildings, effected by flooding and power lines were badly hit, and still people are effected today.

No Arthur, my buildings had no damage and I was not affected by the storms unless you count my wheely-bin being blown over.

Originally Posted by Arthurgray50@blu

I am saying that the local authorities were sitting on there backsides doing nought, severl members of a village today aon Sky News were saying that NO one came to there aid, even todat they are getting the same reply ' we are doing what we can' or Cameron saying ' conact your local council' this is to me is not good enough.

That was one council. Have you any information on all the other councils?

Originally Posted by Arthurgray50@blu

Cameron and Co should have done more to help.

Such as what? Telling the water to recede?

Originally Posted by Arthurgray50@blu

Why is it that members are taking out of all proportion again. I am saying that ALL over the UK we were hit by the big storms.

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I think it you that is getting things out of proportion Arthur

Everyone was effected by damage to there buildings, effected by flooding and power lines were badly hit, and still people are effected today.

We weren't ,we had a brief moment of panic when a cardboard box was blown down the street and the cat got a bit wet though.

I am saying that the local authorities were sitting on there backsides doing nought, severl members of a village today aon Sky News were saying that NO one came to there aid, even todat they are getting the same reply ' we are doing what we can' or Cameron saying ' conact your local council' this is to me is not good enough.

Maybe they are doing what they can ,but as has been said there isn't a lot that they can do ,and just because some old biddy moaned at Cameron doesn't mean that nothing is being done .

This government should have intervened quicker to offer help.

No they should not .

In America, they would have ordered out the National Guard to help. What has Cameron said 'contact your local council'

Not necessarily ,it took a few weeks for the federal government to mobilise any help at all for the victims of Catrina .

[007stuart]

Good news Arthur, I have just heard that people in Africa are doing their version of Band Aid's "Do They Know its Christmas?" with all the profits going to flood relief in England!

[Sirius]

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Originally Posted by martyh

Not necessarily ,it took a few weeks for the federal government to mobilise any help at all for the victims of Catrina .

Although that was considered one of the bigger failures of the Bush Presidency.

Again though the real question should be how long before we should expect to be better prepared for storms and freak weather conditions?

[Stuart]

Originally Posted by Russ

But exactly what sort of help are you suggesting? Telling the water to recede?

Maybe he could part the water a la Moses? That would certainly help those engineers trying to repair the national grid.