driving licence warning

Originally Posted by Rob

I am talking of the older style paper licence that did not require a photocard.

That will automatically be changed to a photo card after 2015 if you get any endorsements or change your address and will then be subject to the 10 yr renewal of the photo

[Osem]

Originally Posted by martyh

They may have that trouble again as the design is changing later this month , and shock, horror there is also talk of putting a union jack on the front next to the EU logo .

just as an aside it may be worth looking at this for the new driving/towing rules coming in on the 19th jan ,chiefly affects new drivers though

http://www.nidirect.gov.uk/changes-t...9-january-2013

Won't that just mean we'll all get confused about whether we're British or European?

Originally Posted by Osem

Won't that just mean we'll all get confused about whether we're British or European?

It will certainly do my head in

Incidentaly back in '98 when the photocard was first introduced it was supposed to on then but labour put a block on it when they got into power

[rogerdraig]

Originally Posted by martyh

Nothing to do with big brother mentality .If i get hit by a car i want to be sure that the driver is the driver that is insured for that car ,i certainly don't want to give insurance companies any excuse not to pay out

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Exactly ,it is also useful for id purposes ,a paper licence cannot be used as id anymore

old paper license are still perfectly valid ( until 2033 at least ) as id as is the paper counter part of a photo id license the paper part is needed that to prove your id

this link shows one department that requires it cant find a more general one at the moment

http://www.sia.homeoffice.gov.uk/Pages/licensing-id-checklist.aspx

here is another list from a bank of valid id that are approved

http://www.santander.co.uk/csgs/Satellite?appID=abbey.internet.Abbeycom&c=Page&can al=CABBEYCOM&cid=1210616507242&empr=Abbeycom&leng= en_GB&pagename=Abbeycom/Page/WC_ACOM_TemplateA2

see page 5 on here

http://www.homeoffice.gov.uk/publications/agencies-public-bodies/dbs/dbs-checking-service-guidance/identity-checking-guidelines?view=Binary

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once you have a photo id license though you do need to update the photo every 10 years personally i think they should at least get people to do a highway code test too

Originally Posted by rogerdraig

old paper license are still perfectly valid ( until 2033 at least ) as id as is the paper counter part of a photo id license the paper part is needed that to prove your id

this link shows one department that requires it cant find a more general one at the moment

http://www.sia.homeoffice.gov.uk/Pag...checklist.aspx

here is another list from a bank of valid id that are approved

http://www.santander.co.uk/csgs/Sate...COM_TemplateA2

see page 5 on here

http://www.homeoffice.gov.uk/publica...es?view=Binary

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once you have a photo id license though you do need to update the photo every 10 years personally i think they should at least get people to do a highway code test too

One of the reasons why i got my licence changed to a photo card one was because my old paper one was not counted as valid id because it did not have a photo .With the photo card you do not need the paper counterpart at all ,that is being discontinued as well

[raging bull]

I have used my senior citizen bus pass as a form of ID before now, the one with my mugshot on!

[rogerdraig]

Originally Posted by martyh

One of the reasons why i got my licence changed to a photo card one was because my old paper one was not counted as valid id because it did not have a photo .With the photo card you do not need the paper counterpart at all ,that is being discontinued as well

the photo license isnt valid id with out the paper counter part

and and old paper license is still valid even for security checks see the links

Originally Posted by rogerdraig

the photo license isnt valid id with out the paper counter part



and and old paper license is still valid even for security checks see the links

I never carry my paper counterpart ,in fact at this precise moment i have no idea where it is .I use my photo licence as the main source of id as i don't have a passport to use when traveling to ireland every few weeks ,The only reason why we have the paper counterpart is to show any endorsements and since that is being discontinued shortly it is not important and is not needed. If you use the old style paper licence you will be asked to back it up with photographic evidence such as a passport or other official evidence been there done that and it is a pain up the jacksy

I only use my paper licence when hiring cars

[Gary L]

Someone comes up with an idea that many departments will profit from.
having to pay £20 is extortionate. it's not administration. it's profiteering with the approval of the government.

now you're going to tell me that it's only £20 every 10 years so it doesn't count.
but they are hoping that many thousands will forget and pay the pre-planned fine of £1,000.

and then they'll eventually change it to it needs renewing every year.

[rogerdraig]

Originally Posted by martyh

I never carry my paper counterpart ,in fact at this precise moment i have no idea where it is .I use my photo licence as the main source of id as i don't have a passport to use when traveling to ireland every few weeks ,The only reason why we have the paper counterpart is to show any endorsements and since that is being discontinued shortly it is not important and is not needed. If you use the old style paper licence you will be asked to back it up with photographic evidence such as a passport or other official evidence been there done that and it is a pain up the jacksy

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have you a link to it being discontinued latest i can find just shows they are changing format slightly see http://www.nidirect.gov.uk/index/inf...-explained.htm

and you will still need both parts to get a bank account hire a car or get a CRB

Originally Posted by rogerdraig

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have you a link to it being discontinued latest i can find just shows they are changing format slightly see http://www.nidirect.gov.uk/index/inf...-explained.htm

and you will still need both parts to get a bank account hire a car or get a CRB

https://www.gov.uk/government/news/g...oring-red-tape

There you go ,you only need the counterpart to show what points you have apart from that it is useless

[j52c]

Originally Posted by martyh

Nothing to do with big brother mentality .If i get hit by a car i want to be sure that the driver is the driver that is insured for that car ,i certainly don't want to give insurance companies any excuse not to pay out

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Exactly ,it is also useful for id purposes ,a paper licence cannot be used as id anymore

I went to the Coop Bank to open a bank account and ask for their credit card and they accepted my paper licence as my ID, and they also accepted my Identity Card that my mother had to have for me in 1943.

My paper licence does expire later this year and I have already applied for it, but it says in the notes that came with the application pages that I do not have to pay for my licence.

Originally Posted by j52c

I went to the Coop Bank to open a bank account and ask for their credit card and they accepted my paper licence as my ID, and they also accepted my Identity Card that my mother had to have for me in 1943.

My paper licence does expire later this year and I have already applied for it, but it says in the notes that came with the application pages that I do not have to pay for my licence.

pensioners don't have to pay ,as for using the paper one as id it is up to individuals but non photo id usually needs other forms of id to back it up

[Pierre]

What we need is a national identity card scheme......................