You can't get me I'm part of the Union........

[RichardCoulter]

Originally Posted by Sirius

Forgot about that, i filled it out accordingly

Originally Posted by papa smurf

me too -no holds barred on that day

Cool, honest views are what is important

[MovedGoalPosts]

Can I please ask everyone to be careful with use of the quote tag function and subsequent edits to ensure authors are correctly attributed. I've just made a lot of corrections.

[papa smurf]

Originally Posted by RichardCoulter

Cool, honest views are what is important

yes honesty is the only way to instigate change for the better - there are a few dinosaurs left in the management team but the finger is pointing in their direction this year.

[Sirius]

Originally Posted by papa smurf

yes honesty is the only way to instigate change for the better - there are a few dinosaurs left in the management team but the finger is pointing in their direction this year.

I did notice you could narrow the answers down to be more specific

[papa smurf]

Originally Posted by Sirius

I did notice you could narrow the answers down to be more specific

and you got 10 chances to vent your spleen at the end ,which i did and was in a particularly foul mood when i did it due to management insensitivity to staff with health problems , some one once said the pen is mightier than the sword , and my typing finger is an atom bomb .

[Sirius]

Originally Posted by papa smurf

and you got 10 chances to vent your spleen at the end ,which i did and was in a particularly foul mood when i did it due to management insensitivity to staff with health problems , some one once said the pen is mightier than the sword , and my typing finger is an atom bomb .

Well they did keep telling us we had to be truthfull and not hold back.

[Peter_]

Originally Posted by RichardCoulter

The last Labour Government brought in the legislation to which you refer. You can expect the coalition to repeal this very soon as part of their "efforts to make employability easier for employers, to help overcome the economic downturn".

It will not have any affect on the thrashing Virgin Media will soon be getting and I for one cannot wait.

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Originally Posted by BenMcr

Strange, I don't remember that being a question

As he knows nothing about the goings on within Virgin Media he will be using his imagination.

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Originally Posted by Sirius

Well they did keep telling us we had to be truthfull and not hold back.

That is a little bit two faced considering how untruthful the company was over the closure of the Albert Dock especially with regards to the facts sourced by the CWU which makes splendid reading.

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Originally Posted by Top banana

I might be being thick here but looking on google it suggests you worked for Adecco not VM ? My last comment on the subject as it appears very personal to you, would be - you are only hearing one side of the story and a court will hear both - good luck hope it works out the way you want

Actually I know quite a bit about what went on as I was a not just a member of the CWU but also a CWU union representative at the Albert Dock but I was not directly involved in the discussions over the closure, so my knowledge is not 2nd or 3rd hand.

So I know both sides of the story and the history and timeline of the proposed closure which I cannot and would not post on any forum or website.

[Down the Pub]

Originally Posted by Sirius

I would recommend Virgin to anyone as a great place to work with excellent people to work with.

could be looking after chrimbo..............................again

[MaverickJesus]

Christ that union response looks amateur. Is that what passes for unions these days? I wouldn't be expecting much if that's the calibre of representation you have.

[Peter_]

Originally Posted by MaverickJesus

Christ that union response looks amateur. Is that what passes for unions these days? I wouldn't be expecting much if that's the calibre of representation you have.

Have you not realised that all this shows is a company running for the hills because they know come the end of the month the CWU will have them over a barrel with the evidence to hand or would you rather be tugging your forelock to the bosses of such a company.

I am looking forward to the upcoming case with bated breath.

Originally Posted by Peter_

Have you not realised that all this shows is a company running for the hills because they know come the end of the month the CWU will have them over a barrel with the evidence to hand or would you rather be tugging your forelock to the bosses of such a company.

I am looking forward to the upcoming case with bated breath.

You are not answering the question of who you were employed by. It appears to be a adeco so isn't this about them rather than vm?

[Sirius]

Originally Posted by Top banana

You are not answering the question of who you were employed by. It appears to be a adeco so isn't this about them rather than vm?

No matter who he was employed by at that time it would have still been VM who controlled the process of shutting down the site as it was a VM site and had been for years. I don't know what fully went on during the closure but i am sure it will all come out after the tribunal.

[Pierre]

Originally Posted by RichardCoulter

The 2012 Heartbeat survey is primarily concerned with finding out if financial incentives to staff, in particular the sharesave and performance-related pay schemes, are value for money.

No it isn't.

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Originally Posted by papa smurf

exactly there is no negotiation its take it or work elsewhere

If a pay increase is awarded to employees throughout the company, which on many occasions throughout the past it hasn't.

It is usually only around 2-3%.

The % is then usually given to the Head of the dept as a pot of money that he can then distribute to his team based on performance, current salary descrepancies etc.

So it would be quite possible for someone to get a 5% increase and someone get zilch within the same team/dept.

That's the way it's always been, I don't see anything wrong with that.

I work hard and I fulfil my objectives and I ensure that when it's appraisal time I am at the forefront to receive a pay award, if one is available.

Rather that than an across the board increase negotiated by a union and senior managment that means that the lazy fecker that sits across from me gets the same pay increase as me for doing sod all.

[Peter_]

Originally Posted by Top banana

You are not answering the question of who you were employed by. It appears to be a adeco so isn't this about them rather than vm?

It is Virgin Media as it was their decision to close as Addecco are just the agency supplying the workforce.

[papa smurf]

Originally Posted by Pierre

No it isn't.

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If a pay increase is awarded to employees throughout the company, which on many occasions throughout the past it hasn't.

It is usually only around 2-3%.

The % is then usually given to the Head of the dept as a pot of money that he can then distribute to his team based on performance, current salary descrepancies etc.

So it would be quite possible for someone to get a 5% increase and someone get zilch within the same team/dept.

That's the way it's always been, I don't see anything wrong with that.

I work hard and I fulfil my objectives and I ensure that when it's appraisal time I am at the forefront to receive a pay award, if one is available.

Rather that than an across the board increase negotiated by a union and senior managment that means that the lazy fecker that sits across from me gets the same pay increase as me for doing sod all.

good for you ,you look after yourself the union wont loose any sleep over it .